On Tue, Jun 04, 2019 at 07:00:25AM -0400, John Young wrote:

"Changed the world" is marketing hyperbole. Items listed are worthy but hardly planetary-grade, indeed could be disparaged as fake-like headline news. Must point out "WikiLeaks" is a hyperbolizing marketing term, a successful branding campaign composed of two reconfigured, stolen, promotional terms

stolen rape fake hyperbole marketing

To be sure, copying predecessors, Martin Luther (and namesake King) posted a list which became a highly successful protestant branding campaign against the dominant only one true "catholic" faith and its erection-architecture-obsessed pederastic church, branding the proliferating, crowd-funding piles with namesaking-saints-listing to lipstick globalizing slaughterhouse murderers which inseminated this spoiled brat of a forever-bragging-branding-USA nation.

Credit, modestly stated, is most certainly due to Assange and his mostly anonymous cohorts for challenging USA and Four Others-branding their global slaughterhouse military with spy-sky lipsticking national security (C)(R)

Aye, a moment of modest credit many would agree is appropriate.

threats. And it may be necessary to exaggerate to gain attention against the vast disinformation hyperbolizing apparatus, lately the Internet, to turn the autocratic weaponized dupery into a counter, comical, dupery, even if only a pinprick.

Fine, then, exaggerate, lie, hide, valorize, but prepare for casualties, "innocents" imprisoned, stigmatized, murdered -- can it not be overstated the

"Tell what you know or shut the fuck up" Had manning "told what she knew" publicly, would her fate have been any better? Some individuals are compelled within their being to "tell what they know". Is it possible that the infrastructure/ dark net web drop provided by Wiki (STOLEN WORD!) leaks (ABUSED WORD!), provided sufficient lag time for Manning to actually abide her conscience and publish/ leak that which she chose to speak. If only "the lurid Wikileaks marketing campaign" -had- succeeded - were we to have 100s of 1000s of "industrial scale leaking whistleblowers", perhaps then a better outcome could be had by all, a true changing of the evil regime we all presently suffer. I would hope the "stolen" marketing term 'Wikileaks' 'getting in the way' might motivate suggestions for improvement - WikiWhistleblowers? WikiBlow? WhistleWiki? Every time we speak, we "steal" words, ideas, concepts. “Be Ye Cautioned, word thief!” Some of us even had the hide to imagine that "information" "wanted to be free"; how can we have useful information without words "for the stealing"?

mass murderous policies of national security religion are ubiquitous, the tiny killings by armed individuals would not show up on a chart of what nations do, mass-scaled, to anonymous humans.

Indeed.

Lee Camp understates what Assange and company could represent, almost as if he dare not arouse the collaeral murdering giants any more than journalists and "leakers" do, that is exhibit fear and trembling, in hapless literature, as Kierkegaard did of the holy power to condemn and urge killing faithless dissenters.

Some Leeward Campers do but an iota. Some do just a little more. Some would like to see a little more recognition of the good intentioned and the useful, albeit with moments of modest caution - nothing wrong with highlighting human failings, but is crucifying the messengers who at least give it a go, really that useful to us? Possibly even counter productive? Surely demonstrations of "the better ways" is what we need, and not (fundamentally) petty bickering of all too common human failings? Good luck all, this world is a tough crowd to please - even a good ole crucifixion don't satisfy a crowd these days, nothing but a bloody stone-ing, a beating to a bloody pulp of the little guy who failed to deliver his good intention perfectly enough to satisfy we stone throwers. Could our message "be a saint or move the fuck on" possibly deter a conscionable and willing potential supporter?

At 05:44 AM 6/4/2019, you wrote:

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Lee Camp puts into words the significant headlines (positives) re Julian Assange.

Thank you Lee Camp.

18 ways Julian Assange changed the world (by Lee Camp) https://www.rt.com/op-ed/460935-julian-assange-changed-world/

In an evolved and fully realized society, the oligarchy would see Assange as a dangerous criminal (which they do), and the average working men and women would view him as justice personified (which they don’t). We would celebrate him even as the mass media told us to hope for his downfall—like a Batman or a Robin Hood or an Ozzy Osbourne (the early years, not the cleaning-dog-turds-off-his-carpet years).

But we are not evolved and this is not Gotham City and average Americans don’t root for the truth. Many Americans cheer for Assange’s imprisonment. They believe the corporate plutocratic talking points and yearn for the days when we no longer have to hear about our country’s crimes against humanity or our bankers’ crimes against the economy. Subconsciously they must believe that a life in which we’re tirelessly exploited by rich villains and know all about it thanks to the exhaustive efforts of an eccentric Australian is worse than one in which we’re tirelessly exploited by rich villains yet know nothing about it.

“Ignorance is bliss” is the meditative mantra of the United States of America.

Julian Assange has been arrested and is now locked away in British custody. The U.S. government wants to extradite him, regardless of the official version, for the crime of revealing our government’s crimes. Nearly every government on our third rock from the sun despises the man for bringing transparency to the process of ruling the unwashed masses. (The level of wash has, however, increased thanks to aggressive marketing campaigns from a variety of shampoo brands.)

It is politically inconvenient at this time for the screaming corporate news to remind our entire citizenry what exactly WikiLeaks has done for us. So you won’t see the following list of WikiLeaks’ accomplishments anywhere on your corporate airwaves—in the same way the mainstream media did not begin every report about Chelsea Manning’s trial with a rundown of the war crimes she helped reveal.

And Chelsea Manning’s most famous leak is arguably also WikiLeaks’ most famous leak, so it’ll top this list:

1) That would be the notorious Collateral Murder video, showing U.S. air crew gunning down unarmed Iraqi civilians with an enthusiasm that couldn’t be matched by an eight-year-old winning a five-foot-tall stuffed animal at the county fair. They murdered between 12 and 18 innocent people, two of them Reuters journalists.

Zero people have been arrested for the collateral murders. Yet Julian Assange has been arrested for revealing them.

2) WikiLeaks brought us the Guantanamo Bay “Camp Delta Standard Operating Procedures”—showing that many of the prisoners held on the U.S. military detention facility were completely innocent, and that some were hidden from Red Cross officials. (Because when you’re torturing innocent people, you kinda want to do that in peace and quiet, away from prying eyes. It’s very easy to get distracted, and then you lose your place and have to start all over again.)

None of the soldiers torturing innocent people at Gitmo have been arrested for it. Yet Julian Assange has been arrested for revealing it.

3) Not content with revealing only war crimes, WikiLeaks in 2008 came out with the secret bibles of Scientology, which showed that aliens, um, run the world or… aliens are inside all of us or… aliens give us indigestion. I can’t really remember. But no one has ever been arrested for perpetrating that nutbag cult. Yet Julian Assange has for revealing it. ...