On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 4:32 PM, <dan@geer.org> wrote:

Please don't let this start an exploration of any rat-hole,

Well, if so defined, Libertarian vs. Monopoly is a hole. Not clear whether that balance has shifted much yet, but people are finally developing wide recognition, tools, and methods that may bring that effect in the future. The internet and things are still a bit young politically but are growing up fast. Perhaps the first gen cpunk was the base philosophy plus the science of possible tools. Second gen the coding, beta test validation and trial runs. Third gen the application to results...

eternal vigilance is the price of freedom [...] there are no final victories

A truth.