Is the end nigh for end-to-end encryption? | Encryption | The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/is-the-end-nigh-for-en... "The passage of GDPR (general data protection regulation) might seem like ancient history – as does everything before 2020 – but in legislative terms it was a mere blink of an eye ago and now the European Union has moved on to the next big thing. Prepare to start hearing a lot about the Digital Markets Act (DMA). "It’s one of two bills currently going through the EU’s institutions, alongside the confusingly similar Digital Services Act (DSA). As a rough split, the DSA is about the things that platforms host: it covers issues such as child sexual abuse imagery, content moderation and algorithmic curation. The DMA, by contrast, is more about what the platforms do. It sets up a new legal definition of large tech platforms as “gatekeepers” – companies that provide a certain set of services to at least 45 million EU-based users or 10,000 business users – and loads them with a host of requirements intended to ensure that industries of the future can compete on a level playing field with the dominant companies of the present. And, oh boy, have those requirements proved controversial. The final version of the text, agreed by the European parliament and council last month, limits the ability of gatekeepers to combine personal data from various sources for the purposes of targeted advertising. It requires companies (read: Apple and Google) to allow users to freely choose their browser, virtual assistants or search engines. It mandates those same companies to open up their platforms to third-party app stores. And, most controversially of all, it requires the largest messaging platforms to become “interoperable”. “The largest messaging services will have to open up and interoperate with smaller messaging platforms, if they so request,” the European parliament explains. “Users of small or big platforms would then be able to exchange messages, send files or make video calls across messaging apps, thus giving them more choice.” The security industry has warned that it could spell doom for services such as WhatsApp
So long as the social vulnerabilities of silo'd corporate platforms are being abused for politics, war, control, and personal power, laws like these will keep on coming, albeit slowly. They do not spell doom. [disclaimer: I read only jim's summary, not the article, and I have mental issues]
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:45 AM, Undiscussed Horrific Abuse, One Victim of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:So long as the social vulnerabilities of silo'd corporate platforms are being abused for politics, war, control, and personal power, laws like these will keep on coming, albeit slowly. They do not spell doom. [disclaimer: I read only jim's summary, not the article, and I have mental issues] The material you did not quote was a partial quote from the article itself. I did not add any comment. But I am fully in favor of end-to-end encryption. We should not have to trust some non-government organization to give us (revocable at any time, in secret?) 'permission' to keep secrets. I remember the Clipper chip debacle of 1993, 29 years ago. Jim Bell
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022, 4:52 AM jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:45 AM, Undiscussed Horrific Abuse, One Victim of Many <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote: So long as the social vulnerabilities of silo'd corporate platforms are being abused for politics, war, control, and personal power, laws like these will keep on coming, albeit slowly.
They do not spell doom.
[disclaimer: I read only jim's summary, not the article, and I have mental issues]
The material you did not quote was a partial quote from the article itself. I did not add any comment.
But I am fully in favor of end-to-end encryption. We should not have to trust some non-government organization to give us (revocable at any time, in secret?) 'permission' to keep secrets.
How do things possibly sort out that interoperability between messaging systems would reduce rather than increase end-to-end encryption? Ideally multi-platform interoperability would mean that simply using end-to-end encryption would let people who have never heard of it, learn about it. It additionally would make it much easier to onboard to encrypted platforms, since you could still communicate with those who haven't yet.
I remember the Clipper chip debacle of 1993, 29 years ago.
I'm curious about this story.
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