On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 4:36 AM, James A. Donald wrote:

On 12/20/2017 3:27 PM, grarpamp wrote:

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Bitcoin is nowhere near private or anonymous. Genuine cryptographic privacy needed for that, such as found in the Zerocash (Zcash) family of coins,

We already are facing big trouble over scaling. Zerocash is too damned slow.

https://z.cash/ shows near term updates coming that significantly raise performance.

I suggest that rather we should employ the coinjoin algorithm.

https://reddit.com/r/joinmarket There are surely other mix implementations you could list, including mix coins such as Monero, or simple swap services such as helix / fogcore.

Pretty soon, the state is going to declare some bitcoins to be "blood bitcoins".

Already happens, search: chainanalysis

Coinjoin, like zerocash, makes equality of bitcoins a fact of mathematics, rather than a policy of humans.

Which is why all of swap / mix / privacy methods may be useful in certain use cases. However as before in the Zcash thread, in general, a well studied reviewed and used true cryptoprivacy coin may seem to be most and long term resistant to analysis, usage error, liquidity / anonymity set, unlike swaps / mixes.

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