Objective Reality Doesn't Exist, Quantum Experiment Shows | Live Science
https://www.livescience.com/objective-reality-not-exist-quantum-physicists.h... 'Blondie" anticipated this 40+ years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjHOk77d4po [I'm not] Living in the Real World. Objective Reality Doesn't Exist, Quantum Experiment Shows By Alessandro Fedrizzi - Professor of Quantum Physics, Heriot-Watt University, Massimiliano Proietti - PhD Candidate of Quantum Physics, Heriot-Watt University November 16, 2019 Now, it seems they have even infected science — at least the quantum realm. This may seem counter intuitive. The scientific method is after all founded on the reliable notions of observation, measurement and repeatability. A fact, as established by a measurement, should be objective, such that all observers can agree with it. But in a paper recently published in Science Advances, we show that, in the micro-world of atoms and particles that is governed by the strange rules of quantum mechanics, two different observers are entitled to their own facts. In other words, according to our best theory of the building blocks of nature itself, facts can actually be subjective. Observers are powerful players in the quantum world. According to the theory, particles can be in several places or states at once — this is called a superposition. But oddly, this is only the case when they aren't observed. The second you observe a quantum system, it picks a specific location or state — breaking the superposition. The fact that nature behaves this way has been proven multiple times in the lab — for example, in the famous double slit experiment. Related: The 18 Biggest Unsolved Mysteries in Physics In 1961, physicist Eugene Wigner proposed a provocative thought experiment. He questioned what would happen when applying quantum mechanics to an observer that is themselves being observed. Imagine that a friend of Wigner tosses a quantum coin — which is in a superposition of both heads and tails — inside a closed laboratory. Every time the friend tosses the coin, they observe a definite outcome. We can say that Wigner's friend establishes a fact: the result of the coin toss is definitely head or tail.[end of partial quote] | | Virus-free. www.avast.com |
On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 19:41:32 +0000 (UTC) jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
Objective Reality Doesn't Exist, Quantum Experiment Shows
So let me point the painfully obvious, which isn't that obvious to the Technofascist Fucktards (TFs). 1) premise : Objective Reality Doesn't Exist 2) premise : 'experiment' is part of reality 3) it follows : 'experiment' doesn't exist 4) conclusion : non-existent experiment 'shows' and 'proves' fuck. Now, one might wonder why this infinitely idiotic 'scientific' propaganda is constantly peddled? Can any fine cypherpunk on this list answer the question?
On Sunday, August 16, 2020, 01:04:48 PM PDT, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote: On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 19:41:32 +0000 (UTC) jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
Objective Reality Doesn't Exist, Quantum Experiment Shows
So let me point the painfully obvious, which isn't that obvious to the Technofascist Fucktards (TFs).
1) premise : Objective Reality Doesn't Exist> 2) premise : 'experiment' is part of reality > 3) it follows : 'experiment' doesn't exist 4) conclusion : non-existent experiment 'shows' and 'proves' fuck.
Now, one might wonder why this infinitely idiotic 'scientific' propaganda is constantly peddled? Can any fine cypherpunk on this list answer the question?
Talk to Kurt Godel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_G%C3%B6del Except he's dead. "Gödel published his two incompleteness theorems in 1931 when he was 25 years old, one year after finishing his doctorate at the University of Vienna. The first incompleteness theorem states that for any self-consistent recursive axiomatic system powerful enough to describe the arithmetic of the natural numbers (for example Peano arithmetic), there are true propositions about the natural numbers that cannot be proved from the axioms. To prove this theorem, Gödel developed a technique now known as Gödel numbering, which codes formal expressions as natural numbers. "He also showed that neither the axiom of choice nor the continuum hypothesis can be disproved from the accepted axioms of set theory, assuming these axioms are consistent. The former result opened the door for mathematicians to assume the axiom of choice in their proofs. He also made important contributions to proof theory by clarifying the connections between classical logic, intuitionistic logic, and modal logic." [end of quote] Godel messed up many lifetimes of mathematical thought by declaring that mathematics as a field was founded "on feet of clay". Jim Bell
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 06:44:21 +0000 (UTC) jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
Talk to Kurt Godel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_G%C3%B6del Except he's dead.
wow! another victim of the terrible flu farce! That's because he didnt wear a mask and drink hydroquinone.
[end of quote] Godel messed up many lifetimes of mathematical thought by declaring that mathematics as a field was founded "on feet of clay".
Hopefully you didn't invoke him to defend the quantum charlatan-fraudsters? As far as I can tell without actually bothering to study goedels views, he 'proved' that attempts to find some ultimate foundation for mathematics were futile. If anything that goes against the reductionistic, 'science'-explains-everything, modern propaganda.
On Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 12:09:00 PM PDT, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 06:44:21 +0000 (UTC) jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
[end of quote] Godel messed up many lifetimes of mathematical thought by declaring that mathematics as a field was founded "on feet of clay".
Hopefully you didn't invoke him to defend the quantum charlatan-fraudsters? As far as I can tell without actually bothering to study goedels views, he 'proved' that attempts to find some ultimate foundation for mathematics were futile. If anything that goes against the reductionistic, 'science'-explains-everything, modern propaganda.
I don't say, "science explains everything". I lean towards, "Science will eventually explain everything". Jim Bell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_physics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_everything
"Science will eventually explain everything".
In whatever the "universe" is "known" to "be", at whatever "time" that "eventually" may be. Some say that by and perhaps well before then, they will already have come to know. Others rest easy as a happy little association of atoms and energies, bouncing around in the goo of the universe they call home. May the Force be with you.
On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 19:41:32 +0000 (UTC) jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
Objective Reality Doesn't Exist, Quantum Experiment Shows
by-the-way, 'reality' is that which exists. So the claim "reality doesn't exist" is at best a poorly worded contradiction in terms.
On 20-08-16 17:59:08, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 19:41:32 +0000 (UTC) jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
Objective Reality Doesn't Exist, Quantum Experiment Shows
by-the-way, 'reality' is that which exists. So the claim "reality doesn't exist" is at best a poorly worded contradiction in terms.
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On 20-08-16 17:59:08, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 19:41:32 +0000 (UTC) jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
Objective Reality Doesn't Exist, Quantum Experiment Shows
by-the-way, 'reality' is that which exists. So the claim "reality doesn't exist" is at best a poorly worded contradiction in terms.
"'Reality' is the only word in the language that should always be used in quotes."
-- Dr. Timothy Leary, PhD
Ha. That's a good observation. No doubt Leary was cleverer than our average, grant-seeking, pseudo-philosopher, lab-technician, phycisist-charlatan-fraudster. Sadly, in the 'real' world, govcorp 'scientific' charlatans like the one quoted by JB are regarded as Enlightened Philosophers whose self-refuting absurdities are...SUBJECTIVE SCIENTIFIC 'TRUTH'. Or sumthin
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