Took me a while to read this post, and I am sanely sad that it doesn't say more about this situation. I would like to say this: - It is obvious that cryptographic communities and anarchist communities become targeted. - People can get seriously hurt in targeted communities, especially organisers or other key people with few supports. - Most people just get drawn away from the communities, rather than seriously hurt. - Multiple people have disappeared from this community. I'm like it if we found the people who have left and looked for patterns to their leaving, and talked about those patterns on the list, and linked to previous discussions of such things. You are a part of this community, even if you are just a visitor on the web. Honestly as quantum computing, artificial intelligence, widespread device compromise, and private use of military contractors (notably for surveillance) all develop, I'm sure many are quite skeptical of cryptography's present ability to keep us safe of anything. Maybe cryptography can't be safe right now, or maybe that is not true. I'm not a cryptographer, but I imagine a future where automated cryptanalysis can provide proven success. It is really smelly that this list is still using a plain-text, centralised, privately administered transport. Really really really smelly. I imagine somewhere out there, the real cypherpunks messages are hiding. On Wed, Sep 9, 2020, 10:02 PM grarpamp wrote:

Anyway, it is quite reasonably doubtful that any so called "Cypherpunks" or "Crypto Anarchists" or even any lesser Libertarians even exist here, at least effectively none who are remotely capable of bringing that game out to the public speaking activism sphere on how, among other things, that Peace Love and Crypto-Anarchism could work to bring a better world regarding any number of charter related topics, perhaps starting with simple AnCap Voluntaryism, or even just basic An-*. No, the list is more full of disgustingly silent Leeches, Journos searching for their next story, harvesting bots, sadistic Agents looking for their next entrapped life ruining and pointless bust, and GovCorp surveillance to preempt game and get 1-up headoff lead on future developments in history.

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prayer, or more prayer

Prayer is for the meek who shall not inherit anything in this Earth but their own sheepledom. Cypherpunks are not sheep, they write code and execute [on] program. Stop being fucking sheep.

We sheep want to help too.