Militia, law, impressment, guns, history
such implicit arguments have frequently been cited by (mostly liberal?) debaters, and much of the clueless populace, lacking any sort of legal education, accepts them without apparent question.)
The Anti-Gun crowd generally avoids quoting, analyzing and debating law and its historical context and reasons. This is because it simply does not support their Anti-Gun position. And because sidestepping needing to voice or contend with such things makes their agenda easier. It's also relavant that most of them have never spent an afternoon or year learning the sport, defense, hunting, law, comparative statistics, etc. Let alone been exposed to or explored larger free thought subjects such as... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_secession https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_rights_and_legal_rights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntaryism
Now, a state might hypothetically have a LAW requiring a militia member to respond to a call. But that law would not necessarily be Constitutional
These sorts of "laws", including "mandatory service", taxes, etc are all immoral and against natural law... forcing somone to take an action, slavery, whatever you want others to do, them having done nothing to you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientious_objector https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressment Took till 1995 for even the UN to begin to understand that conscription and impressment are wrong.
I got ur well-ordered militia hangin' motherfucker, and you get shit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Military_Department You see. You're stupid. You actually BELIEVE the scumbags who founded this shithole nation had ANY intention of honoring the documents they signed. They're AssWipe. Rr Sent from my Androgyne dee-vice with K-9 Mail
On Mon, 04 Nov 2019 07:52:31 -0800 Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:
I got ur well-ordered militia hangin' motherfucker, and you get shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Military_Department
You see. You're stupid. You actually BELIEVE the scumbags who founded this shithole nation had ANY intention of honoring the documents they signed. They're AssWipe.
actually the 'documents' themselves are a blueprint for tyranny. So the foundign fuckers and all the scunbags that came after them 'honored' those 'documents' pretty well. the murican cunstittuion is a criminal agreement between 'states'. A group of slave mafias called the 'states' created a bigger, even more toxic mafia or 'national state'. And the militias and their guns existed to ENFORCE SLAVERY. SLAVERY is a FUNDAMENTAL CONCEPT in the murican cunstituion and is regarded as FULLY LEGITIMATE. et cetera. The list of moral and legal abortions that 'constitute' the United States of America is endless. Stuff like genocide, apartheid, total war, 'civil asset forfeiture' and 'plea bargaining', off the top of my head.
On 11/4/19, Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:
you get shit.
Maybe you know CA, perhaps you getting shit on and stolen from daily by your favorite CA lefty democratic government. No matter, both their parties are 100% dedicated to shitting on you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Military_Department
MILITARY AND VETERANS CODE SECTION 120-130 Go read it. That's your CA, and its code... they will arrest mark imprison and even murder people who refuse to participate in their immoral wars murder theft forcing harmless peaceful people etc... that's entirely disgusting.
the scumbags who founded this shithole nation had ANY intention of honoring the documents they signed.
They scammed a population that had just revolted themselves into the general freedom of anarchy... out of their newfound freedom and into servitude, unto them. Their lofty asses knew exactly what they were doing, as do all governments. They put some emcees on a slick party announcement, trick you at the door, rope you up, and then fuck you as their treat, till you revolt. Do something truly different next time, be the first to stop creating governments. In the meantime, adopt and use privacy cryptocurrencies amongst yourselves.
On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 13:50:44 -0500 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
They scammed a population that had just revolted themselves into the general freedom of anarchy...
you are completely wrong. There was no 'revolt' - there was coup d'etat carried by the worst scumbags on the planet who didn't want to 'share' the profits of slavery with their english accomplices. oh, by the way, the americunt 'revolution' was supported both financially and military by the french monarchy. I guess you didn't know that either.
anarchy...
yeah tell that to the slaves and all the rest of subjects who were not 'founding fuckers' or their accomplices.
there was coup d'etat carried by the worst scumbags
Revolt, coup, civil war. Many times there isn't enough scums to do it, as before they lie to the commons to get them to fight believeing freedom, profit, whatever, and fuck them over later... just like with elections. No doubt many were feeling pretty free, for a while.
'revolution' was supported both financially and military by
Whatever parties stand to benefit of course, old news.
Didn't get it.
Right, "both parties are 100% dedicated to shitting on you."
On November 4, 2019 10:50:44 AM PST, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote: Blah blah... "...your favorite CA lefty democratic government. Got it. Youre a right wing libtard. Rr Sent from my Androgyne dee-vice
On 11/4/19, Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:
Blah blah...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx1J2CzNnS8 213-373-4253 516-387-1296 213-bul-zeye Call now, nigga.
On November 6, 2019 10:04:51 PM PST, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
Call now, nigga.
Thanks for self-profiling as a twenty-something middleclass wannabe gangsta, libtard. Rr Sent from my Androgyne dee-vice with K-9 Mail
On Monday, November 4, 2019, 07:52:53 AM PST, Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote: I got ur well-ordered militia hangin' motherfucker, and you get shit. California Military Department
You see. You're stupid. You actually BELIEVE the scumbags who founded this shithole nation had ANY intention of honoring the documents they signed. They're AssWipe. Rr
Well, THOSE people who wrote the U.S. Constitution were probably mostly dead by 1830. Whether they, personally, 'had an intention of honoring those documents', and whether the others who came after did did so, are certainly debatable questions. But, they are DIFFERENT questions. Jim Bell
On Nov 4, 2019, at 12:56 PM, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Monday, November 4, 2019, 07:52:53 AM PST, Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:
I got ur well-ordered militia hangin' motherfucker, and you get shit.
California Military Department <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Military_Department>
You see. You're stupid. You actually BELIEVE the scumbags who founded this shithole nation had ANY intention of honoring the documents they signed. They're AssWipe. Rr
Well, THOSE people who wrote the U.S. Constitution were probably mostly dead by 1830. Whether they, personally, 'had an intention of honoring those documents', and whether the others who came after did did so, are certainly debatable questions. But, they are DIFFERENT questions.
Jim Bell
Ever read Zinn’s A People’s History? It’s not perfect, but interesting.. Anyway, fuck the “founding fathers” - they got tired of paying blood profit from the their slave state to King George. The real intentions were making more money, off of the backs of more slaves, and over the corpses of more of america’s native population. And that’s human history in a nutshell, actually :P
On November 6, 2019 7:30:02 PM PST, John Newman <jnn@synfin.org> wrote:
Ever read Zinn’s A People’s History? It’s not perfect, but interesting..
Lottsa other good stuff here: https://www.historyisaweapon.com/zinnapeopleshistory.html Addicted to war http://www.arvindguptatoys.com/arvindgupta/addicted.pdf and here: https://libcom.org/library But the bestest truest history of all is here: http://vielewelten.at/pdf_en/illuminatus%20trilogy.pdf Rr Sent from my Androgyne dee-vice with K-9 Mail
Anyway, fuck the “founding fathers” - they got tired of paying blood profit from the their slave state to King George.
The real intentions were making more money, off of the backs of more slaves, and over the corpses of more of america’s native population.
And that’s human history in a nutshell, actually :P
Thanks! And keep an eye out fnord the fnords.. On November 7, 2019 4:07:22 AM UTC, Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:
On November 6, 2019 7:30:02 PM PST, John Newman <jnn@synfin.org> wrote:
Ever read Zinn’s A People’s History? It’s not perfect, but
interesting..
Lottsa other good stuff here: https://www.historyisaweapon.com/zinnapeopleshistory.html
Addicted to war http://www.arvindguptatoys.com/arvindgupta/addicted.pdf
and here: https://libcom.org/library
But the bestest truest history of all is here: http://vielewelten.at/pdf_en/illuminatus%20trilogy.pdf
Rr Sent from my Androgyne dee-vice with K-9 Mail
Anyway, fuck the “founding fathers” - they got tired of paying blood profit from the their slave state to King George.
The real intentions were making more money, off of the backs of more slaves, and over the corpses of more of america’s native population.
And that’s human history in a nutshell, actually :P
On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 05:01:48AM -0500, grarpamp wrote:
such implicit arguments have frequently been cited by (mostly liberal?) debaters, and much of the clueless populace, lacking any sort of legal education, accepts them without apparent question.)
The Anti-Gun crowd generally avoids quoting, analyzing and debating law and its historical context and reasons. This is because it simply does not support their Anti-Gun position. And because sidestepping needing to voice or contend with such things makes their agenda easier.
It's also relavant that most of them have never spent an afternoon or year learning the sport, defense, hunting, law, comparative statistics, etc.
Let alone been exposed to or explored larger free thought subjects such as... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_secession https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_rights_and_legal_rights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntaryism
Now, a state might hypothetically have a LAW requiring a militia member to respond to a call. But that law would not necessarily be Constitutional
These sorts of "laws", including "mandatory service", taxes, etc are all immoral and against natural law... forcing somone to take an action, slavery, whatever you want others to do, them having done nothing to you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientious_objector https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressment
Took till 1995 for even the UN to begin to understand that conscription and impressment are wrong.
Nation's Murderous Psychopaths Undecided On Whether They’ll Follow New Gun Laws https://babylonbee.com/news/murderous-psychopaths-undecided-on-whether-theyl... WASHINGTON, D.C.—Democrats such as Beto O’Rourke have proposed a number of new gun laws, such as universal background checks, a ban on magazines that hold more than ten bullets, and possibly even a “mandatory buyback” of some weapons such as AR-15s. While these laws are likely to be a headache for law-abiding gun owners, the nation’s murderous psychopaths aren’t quite certain how the laws will affect them. “The background check sounds concerning,” explained deranged murderer Steve Mason, known as “Murdering Steve” to his friends. “I would definitely fail it since I’m a well-known psychopath. But I’ve never actually purchased a gun through a gun-dealer; I just steal all my murder weapons. And so far no one has proposed a background check on theft, so I think I’m good.” Jake Foster, who is planning a shooting spree, expressed similar concerns about the ban on “high-capacity” magazines. “Having to do a shooting spree and reloading after every tenth shot does sound irritating,” said Foster. “Despite the law, I might just use a high-capacity magazine anyway. I guess the question is whether I’m willing to deal with a possible fine on top of the multiple counts of murder.” One law murderous psychopaths did seem excited about was the AR-15 buyback. “If they offer a lot of money for my AR-15, it could be pretty worthwhile,” said nutjob Craig McGee. “Then I can use that money to buy more guns just as lethal... but through the black market, of course. Gotta avoid those background checks.”
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:53:50AM +1100, Zig the N.g wrote:
On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 05:01:48AM -0500, grarpamp wrote:
such implicit arguments have frequently been cited by (mostly liberal?) debaters, and much of the clueless populace, lacking any sort of legal education, accepts them without apparent question.)
The Anti-Gun crowd generally avoids quoting, analyzing and debating law and its historical context and reasons. This is because it simply does not support their Anti-Gun position. And because sidestepping needing to voice or contend with such things makes their agenda easier.
It's also relavant that most of them have never spent an afternoon or year learning the sport, defense, hunting, law, comparative statistics, etc.
Let alone been exposed to or explored larger free thought subjects such as... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_secession https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_rights_and_legal_rights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntaryism
Now, a state might hypothetically have a LAW requiring a militia member to respond to a call. But that law would not necessarily be Constitutional
These sorts of "laws", including "mandatory service", taxes, etc are all immoral and against natural law... forcing somone to take an action, slavery, whatever you want others to do, them having done nothing to you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientious_objector https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressment
Took till 1995 for even the UN to begin to understand that conscription and impressment are wrong.
Nation's Murderous Psychopaths Undecided On Whether They’ll Follow New Gun Laws https://babylonbee.com/news/murderous-psychopaths-undecided-on-whether-theyl...
WASHINGTON, D.C.—Democrats such as Beto O’Rourke have proposed a number of new gun laws, such as universal background checks, a ban on magazines that hold more than ten bullets, and possibly even a “mandatory buyback” of some weapons such as AR-15s. While these laws are likely to be a headache for law-abiding gun owners, the nation’s murderous psychopaths aren’t quite certain how the laws will affect them.
“The background check sounds concerning,” explained deranged murderer Steve Mason, known as “Murdering Steve” to his friends. “I would definitely fail it since I’m a well-known psychopath. But I’ve never actually purchased a gun through a gun-dealer; I just steal all my murder weapons. And so far no one has proposed a background check on theft, so I think I’m good.”
Jake Foster, who is planning a shooting spree, expressed similar concerns about the ban on “high-capacity” magazines. “Having to do a shooting spree and reloading after every tenth shot does sound irritating,” said Foster. “Despite the law, I might just use a high-capacity magazine anyway. I guess the question is whether I’m willing to deal with a possible fine on top of the multiple counts of murder.”
One law murderous psychopaths did seem excited about was the AR-15 buyback. “If they offer a lot of money for my AR-15, it could be pretty worthwhile,” said nutjob Craig McGee. “Then I can use that money to buy more guns just as lethal... but through the black market, of course. Gotta avoid those background checks.”
At least the Dems have a winning candidate this time - Trump will find it sooo difficult to battle Biden on stage ... unlike Hillary "you know, it's just so good that someone like you is not in charge of our Justice department" Clinton. <Ahem./> "You're Full Of Shit!": Biden Melts Down In 'AR-14' Tirade After Voter Confronts Over Plan To Take Guns https://www.zerohedge.com/political/youre-full-shit-biden-melts-down-ar-14-t... ... People are probably fine with Biden switching his platform to grabbing AR-14s. I don’t think people will complain much. — Erielle Davidson (@politicalelle) March 10, 2020 ... "Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump!" Detroit auto workers shouted their support for President @realDonaldTrump during Joe Biden's plant visit. pic.twitter.com/AxvasJCFCR — Trump War Room - Text EMPOWER to 88022 (@TrumpWarRoom) March 10, 2020 Yeahhhhh, I's reckon, that, goin' ta Dee-troit, visit-in some real workers, and den tellin im all "You're full of shit!" is ... I dunno y'all ... a winnin strategy? Ahem. The DNPC party - party of the people. Or somethin. Did I mention "ahem"?
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 06:02:24PM +1100, Zig the N.g wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:53:50AM +1100, Zig the N.g wrote:
On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 05:01:48AM -0500, grarpamp wrote:
such implicit arguments have frequently been cited by (mostly liberal?) debaters, and much of the clueless populace, lacking any sort of legal education, accepts them without apparent question.)
The Anti-Gun crowd generally avoids quoting, analyzing and debating law and its historical context and reasons. This is because it simply does not support their Anti-Gun position. And because sidestepping needing to voice or contend with such things makes their agenda easier.
It's also relavant that most of them have never spent an afternoon or year learning the sport, defense, hunting, law, comparative statistics, etc.
Let alone been exposed to or explored larger free thought subjects such as... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_secession https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_rights_and_legal_rights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntaryism
Now, a state might hypothetically have a LAW requiring a militia member to respond to a call. But that law would not necessarily be Constitutional
These sorts of "laws", including "mandatory service", taxes, etc are all immoral and against natural law... forcing somone to take an action, slavery, whatever you want others to do, them having done nothing to you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientious_objector https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressment
Took till 1995 for even the UN to begin to understand that conscription and impressment are wrong.
Nation's Murderous Psychopaths Undecided On Whether They’ll Follow New Gun Laws https://babylonbee.com/news/murderous-psychopaths-undecided-on-whether-theyl...
WASHINGTON, D.C.—Democrats such as Beto O’Rourke have proposed a number of new gun laws, such as universal background checks, a ban on magazines that hold more than ten bullets, and possibly even a “mandatory buyback” of some weapons such as AR-15s. While these laws are likely to be a headache for law-abiding gun owners, the nation’s murderous psychopaths aren’t quite certain how the laws will affect them.
“The background check sounds concerning,” explained deranged murderer Steve Mason, known as “Murdering Steve” to his friends. “I would definitely fail it since I’m a well-known psychopath. But I’ve never actually purchased a gun through a gun-dealer; I just steal all my murder weapons. And so far no one has proposed a background check on theft, so I think I’m good.”
Jake Foster, who is planning a shooting spree, expressed similar concerns about the ban on “high-capacity” magazines. “Having to do a shooting spree and reloading after every tenth shot does sound irritating,” said Foster. “Despite the law, I might just use a high-capacity magazine anyway. I guess the question is whether I’m willing to deal with a possible fine on top of the multiple counts of murder.”
One law murderous psychopaths did seem excited about was the AR-15 buyback. “If they offer a lot of money for my AR-15, it could be pretty worthwhile,” said nutjob Craig McGee. “Then I can use that money to buy more guns just as lethal... but through the black market, of course. Gotta avoid those background checks.”
At least the Dems have a winning candidate this time - Trump will find it sooo difficult to battle Biden on stage ... unlike Hillary "you know, it's just so good that someone like you is not in charge of our Justice department" Clinton.
<Ahem./>
"You're Full Of Shit!": Biden Melts Down In 'AR-14' Tirade After Voter Confronts Over Plan To Take Guns https://www.zerohedge.com/political/youre-full-shit-biden-melts-down-ar-14-t...
... People are probably fine with Biden switching his platform to grabbing AR-14s. I don’t think people will complain much. — Erielle Davidson (@politicalelle) March 10, 2020
... "Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump!" Detroit auto workers shouted their support for President @realDonaldTrump during Joe Biden's plant visit. pic.twitter.com/AxvasJCFCR — Trump War Room - Text EMPOWER to 88022 (@TrumpWarRoom) March 10, 2020
Yeahhhhh, I's reckon, that, goin' ta Dee-troit, visit-in some real workers, and den tellin im all "You're full of shit!" is ... I dunno y'all ... a winnin strategy?
Ahem.
The DNPC party - party of the people. Or somethin.
Did I mention "ahem"?
The destruction of the Demon-rat-ticks "Democratic" party, is almost complete: Top Female Democrats Calling Biden Accuser A Liar https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/top-female-democrats-calling-biden-accuser... [juicy female pictures not attached :)] .. Abrams rattled off the Biden campaign's bullet points - referring to a New York Times story they say proves the incident "did not happen." The Times, however, said that the Biden camp is lying about their report - and that they did not conclude that the 1993 incident never occurred. .. A total of four witnesses have come forward to support Reade's claims that Biden forced himself upon her and penetrated her against her will with his fingers ... .. Robyn Swirling - founder of survivor advocate group Works in Progress .. "I would never tell survivors they need to vote for someone that they're uncomfortable voting for, but..."
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/top-female-democrats-calling-biden-accuser...
From... "Believe all women, metoo, manhating femnazi SJW, rape rape raep" To... "Hey let's all suck Biden's grizzled cock so we can be VP and get poitical power appointments, fat appropriations checks, seats on Supremely Fake Courts, Parliaments, con and confiscate the final check and balance of arms from worlds people, and rape and do what we want forced on top of you, etc..." Such politic shiftery shitfuckery nothing new, just bolder, optimized via 2.0 AI. Typical endless example of the utter bullshit, sellout, sell you out, propaganda mind control, destruction, oppression, slavery etc that is unfixable inherent nature of government. People glued to their TV, snared enraptured and corrupted by and unto political agentry. Straight up unabashed mind control, globalized, harvesting of the masses, worse every year. Only way out to sanity for humanity is to end all government worldwide.
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