Salvini: ‘eliminate private central banks, their money printing, and take back the peoples gold’
If you have a state and associated government, Salvini and Orban are less worse than many. Socialism asymptotes to state collapse, so Salvini spending gold for gibs is neither sensible nor sustainable BUT ridding selves of private money printers (central banks) indeed IS sensible. Look at the American Credit River Decision and comprehend the incredible and incredibly massive fraud which is "private central banking" (money printing) and one begins to pine for ... ... a final solution. Salvini Proposes Seizing Control Of Italy's Gold Reserves
From Central Bank https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-11/salvini-suggests-seizing-control-i...
Italy's populist de facto leader Matteo Salvini seems set on shaking Europe's financial establishment to the core. One day after the Italian deputy prime minister and leader of the League party, called for the elimination of Italy's central bank and the country's financial regulator, Consob, saying the two institutions should be "reduced to zero, more than changing one or two people, reduced to zero", or in other words eliminated, and that “fraudsters” who inflicted losses on Italian savers should "end up in prison for a long time", Salvini prompted fresh shocked gasps in Brussels and Frankfurt when he raised the possibility of seizing Italy’s massive gold reserves away from the country’s central bank. "The gold is the property of the Italian people, not of anyone else," Salvini said in comments to reporters on Monday, according to the FT. … Orban: “We Need Hungarian Children…” https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-11/orban-offers-lifetime-tax-amnesty-... [If we're going to give gibs to folks, at least give da gibs to our own ... leave the miscegenation to Soros and his one little troublesome tribe.] Soros Panics Over Populist Revolt: "EU Is Sleepwalking Into Oblivion" https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-11/soros-panics-over-populist-revolt-... "The first step to defending Europe from its enemies, both internal and external, is to recognize the magnitude of the threat they present..." [Indeed yes Mr Soros, we must recognize the magnitude of the threats our enemies present … indeed...] Politics comedy stunt of the year from the UK: Brexit a chance to boost Britain's navy 'lethality', UK unveils plan to "transform" navy by converting ferries into warships: https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/defence/defence-funding/news/101750/bre... https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/uk-navy-to-push-into-asia-pacific-with-i... UK Unveils Plan To "Transform" Navy By Converting Ferries Into Warships https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-11/uk-unveils-plan-transform-navy-con...
On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 08:57:38PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Salvini Proposes Seizing Control Of Italy's Gold Reserves From Central Bank https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-11/salvini-suggests-seizing-control-i...
Italy's populist de facto leader Matteo Salvini seems set on shaking Europe's financial establishment to the core.
One day after the Italian deputy prime minister and leader of the League party, called for the elimination of Italy's central bank and the country's financial regulator, Consob, saying the two institutions should be "reduced to zero, more than changing one or two people, reduced to zero", or in other words eliminated, and that “fraudsters” who inflicted losses on Italian savers should "end up in prison for a long time", Salvini prompted fresh shocked gasps in Brussels and Frankfurt when he raised the possibility of seizing Italy’s massive gold reserves away from the country’s central bank.
"The gold is the property of the Italian people, not of anyone else," Salvini said in comments to reporters on Monday, according to the FT. …
Beware the age old trope of those behind the scenes assuming or otherwise upholding ignorant politicians, e.g. to encourage by default presumption said politicians (if they DO cause the parliament to seize the peoples' gold) to SPEND said gold on gibs:
So why is Salvini seeking to seize the gold and use it "on behalf of the Italian people"? While there was no clear cut answer, the Italian media reported that the coalition government of Salvini’s anti-migration League and the anti-establishment Five Star Movement, may be considering using part of the central bank’s gold to fund their spending plans.
Salvini countered that while he had not studied the notion of selling Bank of Italy reserves to fund additional government spending in detail, he conceded that "it may be an interesting idea."
Thankfully in this instance, Salvini's cohorts seem to have that coveted second brain cell:
Meanwhile, the close economic adviser of Salvini and Eurosceptic League member of parliament, Claudio Borghi, has proposed a law to ensure that the Italian state was recognised as the ultimate owner of Italy’s gold reserves rather than the Bank of Italy.
“Nobody wants to sell the ingots, in fact, quite the opposite, we want to prevent others from having their hands on it,” Mr Borghi wrote on Twitter after Mr Salvini’s comments according to the FT.
The asset (gold, true money) is that which you print your fiats based on - and any government worth their democracy would never concede that power to private (central bank or otherwise) entities - money printing by loans to government is madness - why would "the people" ever concede the power to print their own fiats (assuming fiats are something the people even want)? Not by any sane thought but only by thuggery, corruption and subterfuge! Now if we're going to have governments and artificial entities such as corporations with "backed by the state's gun" monopolies, then those corporations ought (in this context) get their loans from the government so that the interest on said loans goes to the government's gibs programs (along with corporation taxation). With the government owning and controlling the bulk of the gold, that gold becomes the collateral for its loans to corporations - although really in this context governments really only need collateral for loans to one another. But even then, loans to a debtor, if made in any currency other than the debtor's fiats, are essentially immoral/ insane/ not in the interests of the debtor - why concede your own (state/ national) power to issue loans in your own state/ national fiat? There is a world order no doubt about it, victors and debtors, and most of us are debtors, either personally, but certainly by default via our indebted (i.e. corrupted) "governments". And, no doubt, this global debt pyramid is one incredibly impressive feat. Very impressive Mr Burns, impressive indeed! And all in a mere two hundred years or so. Sorry, I mean Rothschilds, not Burns. Yet this impressive feat is of evil, intrigue, murder, corruption, undermine and blackmail. Certainly not built on anything I can conceive of as "Godly". So it's up for grabs folks, muh grits, fellow Souls one and all - by insisting on the repetitive ~80 year fiat pump and dump, essentially the entire deck of cards has been played into a flimsy card house on the table of the world. Why should we, the people, accept anything less than a 100% fiat debt write off? We probably should not of course, barring karma and the need for le average Soul to discover within himself a motivation to survival, to confront, a foundation of one or more principals worthy of living in that expression constituting one's life - something other than indulgent nihilism. Create your world and go well fellow Souls, go well :)
Note to Italy and Salvini: NEVER "liquidate" your gold to pay for gibs! ONLY collateralize your gold to pay out the government's existing debts with a new Italian fiat currency - set a conversion rate and change that rate if/ as needed - the existing fiat regime is against the interests of "the people" and the "federal reserve system" of which the current Italian central bank is a part of, is private banks (the central banks) causing the people of the world to be indebted via "their" governments, and "the Italian people" were entered into that system WITH NO INFORMED CONSENT, therefore all the contracts around the federal reserve system, are fundamentally illegal, and often unconstitutional, which encourages a legal disposition of debt forgiveness - that is wipe out all existing debt with a digital red pen, and start again, this time with the government issuing the fiats and not any privately owned "central" banks! Since the legal concept above is slightly complex, a campaign to educate the people is probably a prerequisite to a successful "people's coup" (to take back "their" money printing power). Without comprehension of what is required, the Main Stream Media (along with the existing behind the scenes moneyed powers, i.e. bankers) will attempt to orchestrate overthrow of your government and sanction of any associated assassinations. So, tread wisely and carefully! Good luck and God speed, On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 09:21:24PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 08:57:38PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Salvini Proposes Seizing Control Of Italy's Gold Reserves From Central Bank https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-11/salvini-suggests-seizing-control-i...
Italy's populist de facto leader Matteo Salvini seems set on shaking Europe's financial establishment to the core.
One day after the Italian deputy prime minister and leader of the League party, called for the elimination of Italy's central bank and the country's financial regulator, Consob, saying the two institutions should be "reduced to zero, more than changing one or two people, reduced to zero", or in other words eliminated, and that “fraudsters” who inflicted losses on Italian savers should "end up in prison for a long time", Salvini prompted fresh shocked gasps in Brussels and Frankfurt when he raised the possibility of seizing Italy’s massive gold reserves away from the country’s central bank.
"The gold is the property of the Italian people, not of anyone else," Salvini said in comments to reporters on Monday, according to the FT. …
Beware the age old trope of those behind the scenes assuming or otherwise upholding ignorant politicians, e.g. to encourage by default presumption said politicians (if they DO cause the parliament to seize the peoples' gold) to SPEND said gold on gibs:
So why is Salvini seeking to seize the gold and use it "on behalf of the Italian people"? While there was no clear cut answer, the Italian media reported that the coalition government of Salvini’s anti-migration League and the anti-establishment Five Star Movement, may be considering using part of the central bank’s gold to fund their spending plans.
Salvini countered that while he had not studied the notion of selling Bank of Italy reserves to fund additional government spending in detail, he conceded that "it may be an interesting idea."
Thankfully in this instance, Salvini's cohorts seem to have that coveted second brain cell:
Meanwhile, the close economic adviser of Salvini and Eurosceptic League member of parliament, Claudio Borghi, has proposed a law to ensure that the Italian state was recognised as the ultimate owner of Italy’s gold reserves rather than the Bank of Italy.
“Nobody wants to sell the ingots, in fact, quite the opposite, we want to prevent others from having their hands on it,” Mr Borghi wrote on Twitter after Mr Salvini’s comments according to the FT.
The asset (gold, true money) is that which you print your fiats based on - and any government worth their democracy would never concede that power to private (central bank or otherwise) entities - money printing by loans to government is madness - why would "the people" ever concede the power to print their own fiats (assuming fiats are something the people even want)? Not by any sane thought but only by thuggery, corruption and subterfuge!
Now if we're going to have governments and artificial entities such as corporations with "backed by the state's gun" monopolies, then those corporations ought (in this context) get their loans from the government so that the interest on said loans goes to the government's gibs programs (along with corporation taxation).
With the government owning and controlling the bulk of the gold, that gold becomes the collateral for its loans to corporations - although really in this context governments really only need collateral for loans to one another.
But even then, loans to a debtor, if made in any currency other than the debtor's fiats, are essentially immoral/ insane/ not in the interests of the debtor - why concede your own (state/ national) power to issue loans in your own state/ national fiat?
There is a world order no doubt about it, victors and debtors, and most of us are debtors, either personally, but certainly by default via our indebted (i.e. corrupted) "governments".
And, no doubt, this global debt pyramid is one incredibly impressive feat.
Very impressive Mr Burns, impressive indeed! And all in a mere two hundred years or so. Sorry, I mean Rothschilds, not Burns.
Yet this impressive feat is of evil, intrigue, murder, corruption, undermine and blackmail. Certainly not built on anything I can conceive of as "Godly".
So it's up for grabs folks, muh grits, fellow Souls one and all - by insisting on the repetitive ~80 year fiat pump and dump, essentially the entire deck of cards has been played into a flimsy card house on the table of the world.
Why should we, the people, accept anything less than a 100% fiat debt write off?
We probably should not of course, barring karma and the need for le average Soul to discover within himself a motivation to survival, to confront, a foundation of one or more principals worthy of living in that expression constituting one's life - something other than indulgent nihilism.
Create your world and go well fellow Souls, go well :)
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