Why starlink has still not yet allowed anonymous crypto prepaid accounts
Hazarding a guess I would say Mollusk is set on Brinworld solutions and we all just saw that confirmed in his Twitter machinations. He's now making Zuckface look respectable! I don't have to point out the earth-bound dangers of such a foolish policy since this list has been analyzing them for decades now. States like fascist Russia, China and Iran must regard the Mollusk as a Godsend. What's new and adds an ever growing danger is the threat from potentially hostile aliens. The further out into space we go the more crypto-anarchist infrastructure we'll need. Hypothetically its not difficult to imagine an advanced civilization, or federation, condemning us all on the basis of one human individual raping a wilderness planet for no good reason. The longer Mollusk ( and the NASA too btw ) carry on planning to violate the Prime Directive the more danger we are all exposed to. Fuck that for a joke - all wannabe Mars colonists have earned killing.
I've been on the Starlink waiting list since it opened for my area. I live too far north to receive service from the current constellation, and await deployment of the satellites that are more polar orbiting. Wikipedia has a useful and fairly up-to-date article about Starlink. You can see live satellite location information here: https://satellitemap.space/# The reason I'm writing is that Starlink requires you input your actual physical location, before you can get service. The antennas won't get service if they're not at that location. This is the same approach that Hughsnet etc. use for geosynchroneous satellite Internet service: Your antenna will only receive in the location you subscribed for. (Yes, they have more expensive options for portability, also.) Starlink has a new (rather expensive) RV service that is portable. But for stationary service, which is all that was offered until recently, Starlink knows where you are (or at least, where your antenna is). I'd say that this makes attempts to use Starlink anonymously rather ineffective, since Starlink, at least, knows your location. I agree there should be opportunities for anonymous purchases and payments, but that would not be a great way of hiding from Starlink or anyone they choose to share their data with. This doesn't seem much different than any other Internet subscriber system, regardless of whether you can pay or purchase anonymously: they know where you are, even if your subscription isn't in your name. ~ Greg On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 04:33:10AM +0000, professor rat wrote:
Hazarding a guess I would say Mollusk is set on Brinworld solutions and we all just saw that confirmed in his Twitter machinations. He's now making Zuckface look respectable!
I don't have to point out the earth-bound dangers of such a foolish policy since this list has been analyzing them for decades now. States like fascist Russia, China and Iran must regard the Mollusk as a Godsend.
What's new and adds an ever growing danger is the threat from potentially hostile aliens.
The further out into space we go the more crypto-anarchist infrastructure we'll need.
Hypothetically its not difficult to imagine an advanced civilization, or federation, condemning us all on the basis of one human individual raping a wilderness planet for no good reason.
The longer Mollusk ( and the NASA too btw ) carry on planning to violate the Prime Directive the more danger we are all exposed to.
Fuck that for a joke - all wannabe Mars colonists have earned killing.
I'd say that this makes attempts to use Starlink anonymously rather ineffective, since Starlink, at least, knows your location.
All they would know is where, to within accuracy limits, the antenna was and is currently. They would not know who the paying subscriber[s] are, who the user[s] are behind it, nor to wherever else the subscriber[s] and user[s] further distributed that internet access out beyond the dish... such as feeding into local fiber copper, remote RF, back into anonymous overlay networks, resale, etc, or where the dish will be next. Knowing "where" an IP is, is not same as knowing "who" is behind it, user fuckups excepted. This was all discussed back in Media MAFIAA torrent days. And there were precedent setting court acknowledging the distinction, and in some cases affirming that the "who" was indeed not legally discoverable, or even legally pursuable if so, much to disappointment of MAFIAA. Consider also that subsidizing mentality of databasing "who", just weakens and victimizes everyone in the end, example massive censorship of free speech lately, tyrannical scoring systems in countries, etc. And filesharing, the free flow of information, now occurring over distributed anonymous overlay networks connected to tyrannical GovCorp ISP's, won a bit, such that now, even "where" is somewhat less knowable, at least for usage that would require disclosure of top-secret programs, for which torrenting pop stars does not qualify, yet, but will soon.
Starlink or anyone they choose to share their data with.
Starlink is part of the MilGov funded contractor SpaceX, it is highly possible that Starlink's real purpose is to give MilGov a distributed redundant global access to the net, plus whatever it can SpyVeillance with that many RF enabled birds eyes, plus the Room 641A and FISA 702 agreements of its network points, all under the plausible dual guise of providing civilian sales. And there is much historical exposed precedent for such models. Thus it is estimated that FOIA's for any MilGov relationship with Starlink, including that of obvious SpaceForce, NSA, NGA, etc will return a bunch of redacted pages and lots of Glomars.
they know where you are, even if your subscription isn't in your name.
Apologists making that argument, that therefore anonymity and privacy is invalid to seek, should be strongly refuted.
Hazarding a guess I would say Mollusk is set on Brinworld solutions
Well SpaceX is not yet offering the opensouce or cypherpunk communities free or at-cost[-plus] launches for their respective cubesats, so SpaceX cannot yet be considered free from some anti freedom biases, or even meeting some of their own grand rhetoric.
States like fascist Russia, China and Iran must regard the Mollusk as a Godsend.
No. News reports now clearly show that entire fascist G-20 govt's all love and clamor for all the digital tracking of cellphones, and now electric cars, they are even advertising remote GovCorp shutdown and 24x365 tracking permanent databases of all civilians cars, even putting micro cameras and microphones inside the cabin non-optional recording to user inaccessible flash. Truly disgusting 1984 level shit. Which is more embarassing mentality when considering little than 50 years ago most people in world were not yet under any silly "requirement" of "law" to have even driver "license" or "ID", and nothing was digital. Nothing changed with drivers, nothing really got better, only GovCorp got much worse.
I agree that there is value to not requiring customers to share their identity with a seller. Any corporation that does that is offering a rare service to oppressed classes. I don't see why starlink would be as interesting or relevant as posts have implied it is at all. What makes a satellite internet provider more relevant than any other? I can see there's some interest in breaking the political bandwidth barriers, but this seems like a late matter of course rather than a major new thing.
On Thu, 26 May 2022 03:28:31 -0400 "Undiscussed Horrific Abuse, One Victim of Many" <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't see why starlink would be as interesting or relevant as posts have implied it is at all.
starshit-NSA is a crown jewel of US technonazism, and so it is worshipped by technonazis like jim bell and grancrap. Furthermore, the technonazis of this list worship every thing musk does. It should be noted that musk is the biggest, most corrupt crony capitalist on the planet and a 'democrat', or US 'left winger'. This is doubly funny because bell and grancrap are right wingers. and yes, if you want to detect the most fake and dumb 'cyphperpunks' look for the 'cypherpunks' who suck musk's cock.
What makes a satellite internet provider more relevant than any other?
I can see there's some interest in breaking the political bandwidth barriers, but this seems like a late matter of course rather than a major new thing.
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