Signal on the Desktop, Plays FBI Subpoena
https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Desktop https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/10/04/2144202/encryption-app-signal-wins-... http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/signal-subpoena-privacy-gag-order/ https://apnews.com/2bed090d3ec042cab375278b636ff5e5/US-subpoena-tests-privac... http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/05/technology/subpoenas-and-gag-orders-show-g... https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/open_whisper_documen... Signal, widely considered the gold standard of encrypted messaging apps, was put to the test earlier this year when a FBI subpoena and gag order that demanded a wide range of information on two users resulted in a federal grand jury investigation in Virginia. The makers of Signal, Open Whisper Systems, profoundly disappointed law enforcement. The app collects as little data as possible and therefore was unable to hand anything useful over to agents. "That's not because Signal chose not to provide logs of information," ACLU lawyer Brett Kaufman told the Associated Press. "It's just that it couldn't." "The Signal service was designed to minimize the data we retain," Moxie Marlinspike, the founder of Open Whisper Systems, told the New York Times. The subpoena came with a yearlong gag order that was successfully challenged by the American Civil Liberties Union. Signal's creators challenged the gag order as unconstitutional, "because it is not narrowly tailored to a compelling government interest." The challenge was successful. In addition to being popularly considered the best consumer encrypted messaging app available, Signal's technology is used by Facebook for Secret Conversations, WhatsApp for encrypted messages, and Google's Allo. Confronted with the subpoena, Marlinspike went to the ACLU for legal counsel. The ACLU responded with a letter saying that even though Signal did not have data the FBI sought, it still strenuously objected (PDF) to the fact the FBI wanted so much information.
On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 12:56:42 -0400 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
Signal, widely considered the gold standard of encrypted messaging apps, was put to the test earlier this year when a FBI subpoena and gag order that demanded a wide range of information on two users resulted in a federal grand jury investigation in Virginia. The makers of Signal, Open Whisper Systems, profoundly disappointed law enforcement. The app collects as little data as possible
maybe the 'app' collects as little as possible (dishonest hand waving), but the marlinspke's servers collect as much 'metadata' as they can, no?
available, Signal's technology is used by Facebook for Secret Conversations, WhatsApp for encrypted messages, and Google's Allo.
LMAO at the 'anti-establishment' marlinspkike...
Confronted with the subpoena, Marlinspike went to the ACLU for legal counsel. The ACLU responded with a letter saying that even though Signal did not have data the FBI sought, it still strenuously objected (PDF) to the fact the FBI wanted so much information.
available, Signal's technology is used by Facebook for Secret Conversations, WhatsApp for encrypted messages, and Google's Allo. LMAO at the 'anti-establishment' marlinspkike...
Google Allo use encryption only in case, that you use inprivate mode (I not sure what is it, because I didn't find it). Also, I recommend to turn off any "advance" features, which collecting data about. Google Assistant actively persuade you about turn on the monitoring of whole communication activity, mic, camera, location .... etc. In this situation, when mentioned data has been analyzed locally and probably remotely also, encryption are useless. Because this, I distrust the mentioned, also WhatsApp and others, stay on the Signal. Jan
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On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 12:56:42 -0400 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
Signal, widely considered the gold standard of encrypted messaging apps, was put to the test earlier this year when a FBI subpoena and gag order that demanded a wide range of information on two users resulted in a federal grand jury investigation in Virginia. The makers of Signal, Open Whisper Systems, profoundly disappointed law enforcement. The app collects as little data as possible
maybe the 'app' collects as little as possible (dishonest hand waving), but the marlinspke's servers collect as much 'metadata' as they can, no?
available, Signal's technology is used by Facebook for Secret Conversations, WhatsApp for encrypted messages, and Google's Allo.
LMAO at the 'anti-establishment' marlinspkike...
Confronted with the subpoena, Marlinspike went to the ACLU for legal counsel. The ACLU responded with a letter saying that even though Signal did not have data the FBI sought, it still strenuously objected (PDF) to the fact the FBI wanted so much information.
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