Safe country for crypto products
Hi! Looks like, rather sooner than later, we will have to move some products to other countries. AnyDVD, which has slightly different enemies, moved from Switzerland to Antigua to Belize. Looking at the slightly outdated cryptolaw.org, I wonder which non-EU/non-US country would actually be suitable to serve as host organization for open source crypto projects. With some thinking, it probably can be arranged to have parallel entities in multiple countries 'responsible' for an open source project. I can't think of any examples where this is the case, most projects do have one primary legal home (trademark, copyright, etc). Suggestions?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 03/17/2016 08:10 PM, strife wrote:
Hi!
Looks like, rather sooner than later, we will have to move some products to other countries. AnyDVD, which has slightly different enemies, moved from Switzerland to Antigua to Belize.
Looking at the slightly outdated cryptolaw.org, I wonder which non-EU/non-US country would actually be suitable to serve as host organization for open source crypto projects.
With some thinking, it probably can be arranged to have parallel entities in multiple countries 'responsible' for an open source project. I can't think of any examples where this is the case, most projects do have one primary legal home (trademark, copyright, etc).
Distributed development of software, involving people scattered all over the world, is routine these days. Adapting tools like git and i2p to create hard to find, hard to suppress projects physically hosted at multiple locations in mutually hostile legal jurisdictions is only a question of motivation: When the perceived value of a project exceeds the costs of making it "stateless" and very hard to suppress, people will most likely do just that. I can't think of any technical barriers. People who are competent to make "crypto products" are uniquely qualified to do that particular trick. :o) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJW61D0AAoJEDZ0Gg87KR0L6z4QAOX26hm4Mf2ijaPdboH2Tjgp 2xV8mmZglQCtbS1jSHht8iqee81ssVqxK7+91e5sDLHpeAQX2ENfLgz7aiPKgZSs UiIcvd5pXjLKvRLheHt85iK4itlZq22uaBHMpn/KrPp4q0tqC3bjkI6JjzCVZw7g PnD0Csw2CqXN1Jg5m8eapm8c6ZQ5LytwiXYwqjtSm400QcUfCg3+ASSu0AmKSs/E ITzMgIm0Y0FgP2PDjoWp9sBC4kvSO/MMg5wTULXYeMyiA3mBdtyQSFa2tgWFfoFo 1tKvTVitOHFNsS9MDWWjRSsxgAQT4jG/E6cPVdd1p4+/6JLb0VecqEytLa+1cCMU pWvIRvWTnLvk+6OgvYPvCLw7gOYHWlthNwnLrbCOdMP+OQDaA3umPofrxnszKzU7 jg00aakKwVhiG/yO80M9GOBzKQk4HUaXUl/U/qpgQ6iiuhXprZ6+MCv45nOR77fT LSKnYtZfgrbHjOcaJR8Zubs1iCTJW+gjPnIXJL0ooqcGZGt9ham5FYEtV5ihl8ui TaJ2WKRDSH5bTpMWpngb3y5Lzs9Du43IXRs3juRdJFiB+vTArXRPpg9BWS5ojGF7 BDDaJoJ5ZXLS3KH7UlhF/3kw4NdxC43oIyVcCj2ID4coMdTA5NqjmwTbTGpAcr7C kARuXo2dhdXLu6ieykYM =6A6n -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 3/17/16, Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
On 03/17/2016 08:10 PM, strife wrote:
Looks like, rather sooner than later, we will have to move some products to other countries. AnyDVD, which has slightly different enemies, moved from Switzerland to Antigua to Belize.
Looking at the slightly outdated cryptolaw.org, I wonder which non-EU/non-US country would actually be suitable to serve as host organization for open source crypto projects.
With some thinking, it probably can be arranged to have parallel entities in multiple countries 'responsible' for an open source project. I can't think of any examples where this is the case, most projects do have one primary legal home (trademark, copyright, etc).
Distributed development of software, involving people scattered all over the world, is routine these days. Adapting tools like git and i2p to create hard to find, hard to suppress projects physically hosted at multiple locations in mutually hostile legal jurisdictions is only a question of motivation: When the perceived value of a project exceeds the costs of making it "stateless" and very hard to suppress, people will most likely do just that. I can't think of any technical barriers.
People who are competent to make "crypto products" are uniquely qualified to do that particular trick.
There are already number of git repos on anonymous overlay networks from which to choose, or setup your own. Also this repo works quite well over such networks and has additional integrated crypto features... http://monotone.ca/
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 23:56:16 -0400 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
Also this repo works quite well over such networks and has additional integrated crypto features... http://monotone.ca/
I've been using Fossil (https://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/index.wiki) in this way for a couple of years on some projects, and it's been very useful. - -- The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415] [ZS] PGP: 0x807B17C1 / 7960 1CDC 85C9 0B63 8D9F DD89 3BD8 FF2B 807B 17C1 WWW: https://drwho.virtadpt.net/ If your pride's getting in the way, then your dreams aren't big enough. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJW7E2QAAoJED1np1pUQ8RkvpwP/jHd1JiJZ1dVeMgXES60nJx8 TSwcbqcSW9Xn3u9l4fDQgqNp41BNMPxrOk16mQQo/ZD6cUmdXbTpdVYSExE4F2xe FZ6vNSKAHDblEAo+uFqVDLL0mx/L70FZg5mK29WYDBDeJblDqZaSlvnzfJPM96pb ypf/dLPinRLyYW6+PjkoNGdCWIvgpOcu/5GWQCjqdGbVF6Im3dC9CJzUP4587x2M jYjiCwJPUwYqCyEJUfCo6o8uozDN6aoOAKcQK1qrqQhLbXCypGFpT1/Lie+S+sOi EYG6imoDx5/pfmPhSgzXwGwCMSmfKX7491zqYmtwjjaIp7C+cJD2xA+BNpHkIDhx b2GPxRwRuZH5dlJQSIyfnaw8Eg5uvZ8RRz8ZatT/TZumAASAY4TRtzJBI92wzaGi mq4KlHJ7f2wwud3jcKDmoPo1YFW4dwShOJjzVVKr/o0Ef/buT5bCm8Hwts7/QBNr lMgIPUf3ENyQcJi4HgRsyOc/d4IRnSuoXH/VrQhYuytcB7p06noDsAj/shnLjmRl /Qjx2H07uCJa6RfdigQLSsyDNcpU6+BcCShJq4G6pQJ1Zid3w+0T3cr1dasJnrT0 o4TAX/5bdsNb4Qtd0w4f+pXX07Dwwjfv8btP3JebMUiYwuvVxpldrYVeMIo8ebET ++lWjnfSzwUlv1W4xVpk =X32I -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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