FOR once and FOR ALL
Let's get this straight so all you can shut up or put up: There are two futures: one of an Apocalypse or one of Enlightenment. There are four prophesies (two religious and two mystical/new age) and two purely rational arguments why a dramatic and planetary shift MUST and WILL happen in one form or another. All this in-fighting is worthless. If you want the good future it will take Truths that you do not yet have or Righteousness for those who have NO voice in the world. These groups are right in America, no need to think they're far off and inaccessible. The experts have been wrong -- all of them. Whether it's medical doctors (who have never made a sane nor healthy world) or scientists (who have not secured a safer future and have wrapped themselves in a elaborate narrative exactly reminiscent of the Allegory of Plato's Cave) or religion (who have never even been held to their own creeds like protecting Earth and Do Not Kill), the failure also lies on all the MASSES (you and me) who have allowed this clusterfuck to happen and continue everyday. You are using your smartphone and sipping coffee to browse the web and be cool, right? All these petty issues like bitcoin and encryption, or occupy and gay rights are so far down the spectrum as to be laughable. The value of cypherpunks is tools for greater activism or personal development, not hiding from the State like little peons, but TRANSCENDING it. Read Hack the Law at hackerspaces wiki or New World Order, also at that site. Either the future is made BY us, or it is destroyed by US. Which is it? \0xDynamite
On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Xer0Dynamite <dreamingforward@gmail.com> wrote:
Let's get this straight so all you can shut up or put up: There are two futures: one of an Apocalypse or one of Enlightenment. There are four prophesies (two religious and two mystical/new age) and two purely rational arguments why a dramatic and planetary shift MUST and WILL happen in one form or another.
All this in-fighting is worthless. If you want the good future it will take Truths that you do not yet have or Righteousness for those who have NO voice in the world. These groups are right in America, no need to think they're far off and inaccessible.
The experts have been wrong -- all of them. Whether it's medical doctors (who have never made a sane nor healthy world) or scientists (who have not secured a safer future and have wrapped themselves in a elaborate narrative exactly reminiscent of the Allegory of Plato's Cave) or religion (who have never even been held to their own creeds like protecting Earth and Do Not Kill), the failure also lies on all the MASSES (you and me) who have allowed this clusterfuck to happen and continue everyday. You are using your smartphone and sipping coffee to browse the web and be cool, right?
All these petty issues like bitcoin and encryption, or occupy and gay rights are so far down the spectrum as to be laughable. The value of cypherpunks is tools for greater activism or personal development, not hiding from the State like little peons, but TRANSCENDING it.
Read Hack the Law at hackerspaces wiki or New World Order, also at that site. Either the future is made BY us, or it is destroyed by US. Which is it?
\0xDynamite
While this may be true, and human / civilization may or may not yet be developed enough to be able to think or transcend any given thing, just going on about some topic like polical schools of thought, without bringing any outcomes back to test and bear on what your're trying to transcend, is offtopic, and isn't going to get you anywhere enlightened anytime soon.
Read Hack the Law at hackerspaces wiki or New World Order, also at that site. Either the future is made BY us, or it is destroyed by US. Which is it?
While this may be true, and human / civilization may or may not yet be developed enough to be able to think or transcend any given thing,
Then let me tell you: you didn't come from apes -- nobody did. The fact that there are "DNA" similarities are because there was a human BEFORE mammals existed. The reason there is continual turmoil in the Middle East is because SCIENCE is trying to ERADICATE their TRUTHS. The all-seeing-eye is not from the same human stock as those of the West. In fact, there are at least THREE genii of men: homo, hetero, and amphi sapiens. (Which is probably why they started trying to tack on a SECOND sapiens onto homo: homo sapiens sapiens). We are NOT homo (for those of us who come from mothers).
just going on about some topic like polical schools of thought, without bringing any outcomes back to test and bear on what your're trying to transcend,
Well, now you have it.
is offtopic, and isn't going to get you anywhere enlightened anytime soon.
Better? \0x
Oh, and another thing. Just so that we're all clear of the utter stupidity of it all (even though it's mentioned in the links I gave prior): the Internet Revolution was co-opted into the same fucking forces as capitalism in America: GLAM and COMMERCE. Did you notice that the simple O(N^2) value generation of the Net is co-opted into a mere O(N log N) value by network large site co-opting user attention into data silos to hook them in there for advertising revenue? The Net's value originally (back in the late 90's) was scaling value in the order of Reed's Law: super-exponential value generation (O(2^N)) by the addition of creating arbitrary groupings (like this cypherpunks mailing list) on top of the otherwise N^2 value of a effectively fully-connected network. So, graph it out: an 2^N curve versus a N log N curve and watch as the values of N go above 100. THAT is the political battle that THIS list should worry about as it is/was about the Internet Revolution. Now please give me a report on what you learned in the four texts I linked to you. \0x On 9/3/16, Xer0Dynamite <dreamingforward@gmail.com> wrote:
Read Hack the Law at hackerspaces wiki or New World Order, also at that site. Either the future is made BY us, or it is destroyed by US. Which is it?
While this may be true, and human / civilization may or may not yet be developed enough to be able to think or transcend any given thing,
Then let me tell you: you didn't come from apes -- nobody did. The fact that there are "DNA" similarities are because there was a human BEFORE mammals existed. The reason there is continual turmoil in the Middle East is because SCIENCE is trying to ERADICATE their TRUTHS. The all-seeing-eye is not from the same human stock as those of the West. In fact, there are at least THREE genii of men: homo, hetero, and amphi sapiens. (Which is probably why they started trying to tack on a SECOND sapiens onto homo: homo sapiens sapiens). We are NOT homo (for those of us who come from mothers).
just going on about some topic like polical schools of thought, without bringing any outcomes back to test and bear on what your're trying to transcend,
Well, now you have it.
is offtopic, and isn't going to get you anywhere enlightened anytime soon.
Better?
\0x
On September 3, 2016 3:07:40 PM EDT, Xer0Dynamite <dreamingforward@gmail.com> wrote:
Read Hack the Law at hackerspaces wiki or New World Order, also at that site. Either the future is made BY us, or it is destroyed by US. Which is it?
While this may be true, and human / civilization may or may not yet be developed enough to be able to think or transcend any given thing,
Then let me tell you: you didn't come from apes -- nobody did. The fact that there are "DNA" similarities are because there was a human BEFORE mammals existed.
Had some recent LSD insights or what ? I don't even want to ask where this nonsense is coming from... John -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
On 9/3/16 4:21 PM, John wrote:
On September 3, 2016 3:07:40 PM EDT, Xer0Dynamite <dreamingforward@gmail.com> wrote:
Read Hack the Law at hackerspaces wiki or New World Order, also at that site. Either the future is made BY us, or it is destroyed by US. Which is it? While this may be true, and human / civilization may or may not yet be developed enough to be able to think or transcend any given thing, Then let me tell you: you didn't come from apes -- nobody did. The fact that there are "DNA" similarities are because there was a human BEFORE mammals existed. Had some recent LSD insights or what ? I don't even want to ask where this nonsense is coming from...
Let's just say that breaks with reality are off topic.
John
sdw
On 09/03/2016 12:07 PM, Xer0Dynamite wrote:
Then let me tell you: you didn't come from apes -- nobody did.
Dude! You insulted my family (guerrillas). Let's box MF! Rr
Read Hack the Law at hackerspaces wiki or New World Order, also at that site. Either the future is made BY us, or it is destroyed by US. Which is it?
While this may be true, and human / civilization may or may not yet be developed enough to be able to think or transcend any given thing,
Then let me tell you: you didn't come from apes -- nobody did. The fact that there are "DNA" similarities are because there was a human BEFORE mammals existed. The reason there is continual turmoil in the Middle East is because SCIENCE is trying to ERADICATE their TRUTHS. The all-seeing-eye is not from the same human stock as those of the West. In fact, there are at least THREE genii of men: homo, hetero, and amphi sapiens. (Which is probably why they started trying to tack on a SECOND sapiens onto homo: homo sapiens sapiens). We are NOT homo (for those of us who come from mothers).
just going on about some topic like polical schools of thought, without bringing any outcomes back to test and bear on what your're trying to transcend,
Well, now you have it.
is offtopic, and isn't going to get you anywhere enlightened anytime soon.
Better?
\0x
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grarpamp
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John
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Razer
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Stephen D. Williams
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Xer0Dynamite