Ultimate in hypocrisy and selective arbitrary secret "rule" enforcement. If you were smart, you would leverage this to regain your born inalienable human rights to fly and travel without ID too. TSA Is Allowing Illegal Migrants To Board Commercial Flights Without Proper Identification, Texas Rep. Alleges https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2021/12/12/good-news-il... It looks as though President Biden's immigration crisis isn't just on the ground anymore. That's because it was reported this week that the Biden administration is allowing illegal migrants to board commercial flights across the United States without ID - all in the name of not being "racist". Rep. Lance Gooden from Texas, who has been in the midst of investigation the TSA, made the relevation. His investigation was prompted by “whistleblower documents alleging an operation to move migrants across the country without standard documentation.” Gooden's correspondence with the TSA was reported by PJ Media this week. Gooden wrote to TSA Administrator David Pekoske this week, stating: “We request clarification on the Transportation Security Administration’s (TSA) policies and procedures to protect the nation’s transportation systems and mitigate national security risks. I have serious concerns TSA is actively assisting illegal immigrants without proper identification travel throughout the country. Therefore, we are requesting TSA provide assistance in identifying and preventing the unprecedented flow of illegal immigrants into and throughout the United States and the role TSA has played in facilitating this influx of migrants.” He then asked the TSA: “What policies and procedures are in place to identify and screen Non-US/Canadian citizens who do not have documents issued by the U.S. government or passports?” Gooden's office has only received an email response from the TSA so far, which reportedly states that “it accepts alternate forms of identification including a Notice to Appear (NTA) in court” as documentation. An NTA is reportedly only issued after agents have “processed a migrant’s biometrics, taken photos of them, and run their fingerprints through immigration and the National Crime Information Center (NCIC) databases," the PJ Media report says. But Gooden says agents inform him that an NTA isn't adequate ID, writing: “When I asked a border patrol officer about TSA allowing migrants to fly with no identification, they told me a Notice to Appear is not sufficient identification and they often have to take migrants at their word that they are who they say they are. TSA and non-profit groups are putting millions of Americans travelling for Christmas at risk by allowing these unknown and unvetted migrants to board planes and fly across the country.” The TSA fired back, saying that: “in coordination with its DHS counterparts, TSA has also identified alternate forms of ID for use in special circumstances at the checkpoint, circumstances such as non-U.S. citizens or non-nationals who do not have an acceptable form of ID. For travelers in normal circumstances who lack acceptable or alternate forms of ID, TSA calls the National Transportation Vetting Center (NTVC), which attempts to verify a traveler’s identity by using the individual’s information along with information from various government and commercial databases.”
Ultimate in hypocrisy and selective arbitrary secret "rule" enforcement. If you were smart, you would leverage this to regain your born inalienable human rights to fly and travel without ID too.
Regarding our rights, remember there is no law in the USA that you must be required to carry an ID. Sometimes TSA workers falsely state there is. We need public discourse around immigration. Wikidebate. People I've had opportunity to speak with came to the usa to escape violent bloody warfare preventing forming a safe life or family in their home country. Such conflict and unrest outside our country can be stimulated by our own powerholders.
On 12/16/21, Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
Regarding our rights, remember there is no law in the USA that you must be required to carry an ID. Sometimes TSA workers falsely state there is.
ID doesn't matter, it's the fact that there are "laws" and "policies" and "rules" and "regulations" and control freak ideologies being propped in school and work and home from very young age that you must IDENTIFY yourself submit yourself to databases mining marketing sharing social score blacklisting etc before being "allowed" to travel, engage in business, transact, subscribe to a [even prepaid] service, etc. That's WRONG, it's bullshit, and it's getting worse. You clearly haven't tried to fly or do anything else without an "ID". You don't need a "birth certificate", an "ID", an "SSN", a "DOB", a "DL", a "bio-ID" or anything else of the sort, unless you so voluntarily choose to do so, commonly to secure YOURSELF a thing or account of value, which can also be done simply by doing business that maintains personal relationships, none of that ID BS required, and most certainly not in the crypto space where PUBKEY is king. Do you seriously think you need an IDENTITY to pay cash get your shit scanned for bombs and fly anon as a FREE HUMAN BEING... NO. Do you seriously think you need a "DL" to drive, or that that stops anyone from driving. A "*" for anything or that that stops anyone from "*". Get real. Quit bleating for govt to solve your problems and take personal responsibilty creative flexible avenues to accomodate, to accept privacy and private persons and random anons who just want to live, to give freedom to others instead of trying to enslave them. If nothing else Bitcoin should have made finality avenue clear. But you couldn't grasp even that and bleated for govt regulation there too where none was needed.
We need public discourse around immigration. Wikidebate.
For so long as borders remain any other than fully bidirectional without restriction, or passport, or tracking of human beings, etc... there is no debate. For so long as there are government borders... there is no debate. Whether or not you choose to travel to a free voluntarily formed region known for [dis-]wishing you or your kind to be there, is up to you. Whether or not you're yet free to leave those who have constrained you for murder, rape, theft etc, is not up to you.
People I've had opportunity to speak with came to the usa to escape violent bloody warfare preventing forming a safe life or family in their home country.
So you think the usa is magically limitless land and resources? Just wait till you overfill it or any other place with humans, as you have already done else those resources wouldn't be vanishing, especially the kind of humans that refuse to fix the problems in their own place and instead run away, those destinations are going to shit too, not least due to influx of do-nothing runaways, most of which don't have money, can't speak prevailing language, thus can't do much but work as factory and service slaves and live on debt-deficit welfare, is that Biden's game. Then there is lack of integration which most cultures and religions refuse to do much of, ie Islam, which if tried to force leads to soft warfare, then to hard warfare. Mass migrant people should have stayed in their country and overthrown their govt in one week and not replaced it and taught their kids NAP voluntarism. Instead they taught worshipment of govt, brutal force of democracy, and running... and got exactly what they learned, and continue to promulgate it in their destinations, thus didn't fix anything anywhere at all, just made things worse.
Such conflict and unrest outside our country can be stimulated by our own powerholders.
Then quit "voting" to "elect" "powerholders" in "democracy" if you don't want such politically induced violence and force stimulated against others, including against yourself.
You clearly haven't tried to fly or do anything else without an "ID".
I actually have, although it makes sense it wouldn't appear that way (since I am different). I'm experiencing a lot of curiousity around how it shows.
Do you seriously think you need a "DL" to drive, or that that stops anyone from driving. A "*" for anything or that that stops anyone from "*". Get real.
Don't buy stuff either, it's a waste of your life that could be spent pursuing something important. Want to stimulate the economy? Start a business. Want to protect yourself from the corporate mafia? Burn down their offices. I'm trying to say this stuff. It's hard.
We need public discourse around immigration. Wikidebate.
For so long as borders remain any other than fully bidirectional without restriction, or passport, or tracking of human beings, etc... there is no debate. For so long as there are government borders... there is no debate.
Well we need a way to communicate productively without our governments labeling some things as insurrectionist or dialog being disrupted.
Whether or not you choose to travel to a free voluntarily formed region known for [dis-]wishing you or your kind to be there, is up to you. Whether or not you're yet free to leave those who have constrained you for murder, rape, theft etc, is not up to you.
politics, murder, rape, theft ... but of course a person escapes on a regular basis too.
People I've had opportunity to speak with came to the usa to escape violent bloody warfare preventing forming a safe life or family in their home country.
So you think the usa is magically limitless land and resources?
No, I don't.
Just wait till you overfill it or any other place with humans, as you have already done else those resources wouldn't be vanishing, especially the kind of humans that refuse to fix the problems in their own place and instead run away, those destinations are going to shit too, not least due to influx of do-nothing runaways, most of which don't have money, can't speak prevailing language, thus can't do much but work as factory and service slaves and live on debt-deficit welfare, is that Biden's game. Then there is lack of
It sounds like we've been exposed to different experiences and statements of facts. But don't call runaways (escaped slaves) do-nothing! Have you ever met a harder worker than a slave? They don't get rest.
integration which most cultures and religions refuse to do much of, ie Islam, which if tried to force leads to soft warfare, then to hard warfare. Mass migrant people should have stayed in their country and overthrown their govt in one week and not replaced it and taught their kids NAP voluntarism. Instead they taught worshipment of govt, brutal force of democracy, and running... and got exactly what they learned, and continue to promulgate it in their destinations, thus didn't fix anything anywhere at all, just made things worse.
Thanks for your dialog. It's very hard for me to stay engaged when so many things are presented together in this way.
Such conflict and unrest outside our country can be stimulated by our own powerholders.
Then quit "voting" to "elect" "powerholders" in "democracy" if you don't want such politically induced violence and force stimulated against others, including against yourself.
I guess if you quit voting than I can shift politics slightly more towards how I prefer them ;p I see that voting is dangerous _because_ it makes people think they are influencing decisions by _not_ attending the meetings in which they are made. Attending a meeting, or making friends with somebody who does, is _far_ more effective than voting.
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