This is a test to validate if I am properly receiving list email. I've not seen anything in a few days. Cypher
Yup, working fine but really silent, weird considering this weekend gotoFail Cheerz http://apx808.blogspot.com On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Cypher <cypher@cpunk.us> wrote:
This is a test to validate if I am properly receiving list email. I've not seen anything in a few days.
Cypher
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 4:24 PM, APX 808 <apx.808@gmail.com> wrote:
Yup, working fine but really silent, weird considering this weekend gotoFail
i've never lamented a bug kill like this one. ever since my first mallory'ing with fixed certs have i loved thee... *tears* guess i need to burn them faster... i'm honestly astonished this took so long to discover. WTF!?!
On 2014-02-24, Cypher wrote:
This is a test to validate if I am properly receiving list email. I've not seen anything in a few days.
Please die horribly. And your kids. The dog too. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - decoy@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-40-3255353, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014, at 12:28 PM, Sampo Syreeni wrote:
On 2014-02-24, Cypher wrote:
This is a test to validate if I am properly receiving list email. I've not seen anything in a few days.
Please die horribly. And your kids. The dog too.
Sometimes I think about unsubscribing from cpunks because of comments like these and other long-winded nonsense threads. But after reading the latest piece from The Intercept (https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/) I've got a feeling that some of the trolls on here are deliberate, hopefully driving us to unsubscribe: "One of the many pressing stories that remains to be told from the Snowden archive is how western intelligence agencies are attempting to manipulate and control online discourse with extreme tactics of deception and reputation-destruction." "Among the core self-identified purposes of JTRIG are two tactics: (1) to inject all sorts of false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets; and (2) to use social sciences and other techniques to manipulate online discourse and activism to generate outcomes considers desirable." Mass-unsubscribes because of some of the previous hate-threads sounds like one of those "desirable outcomes". So instead of complaining like Sampo did, "don't feed the trolls" as it could all be part of some JTRIG/HB Gary/Palantir campaign. Just mark-as-read and move on. Alfie -- Alfie John alfiej@fastmail.fm
On 2014-02-25, Alfie John wrote:
So instead of complaining like Sampo did, "don't feed the trolls" as it could all be part of some JTRIG/HB Gary/Palantir campaign. Just mark-as-read and move on.
Like you just did? What I don't like is crud seeping through my spam filters. I mostly have it nailed, but test emails still make it. Absent GAI, how could they not? So, what should you do when someone clogs your inbox and probably that of thousands of others beside you, with a test email? The kind *everybody* knows shouldn't be sent to a list? Well, complain of course. Horribly. With the slightest tang of ill and cantankerous humour to soften it out just that little bit. Where were you when they invented netiquette? -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - decoy@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-40-3255353, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014, at 02:55 PM, Sampo Syreeni wrote:
So, what should you do when someone clogs your inbox and probably that of thousands of others beside you, with a test email? The kind *everybody* knows shouldn't be sent to a list? Well, complain of course. Horribly. With the slightest tang of ill and cantankerous humour to soften it out just that little bit.
Where were you when they invented netiquette?
Any other time and it might have seemed in bad taste, but given that The Intercept article I linked to was published only hours ago, I thought I was being highly relevant. Alfie -- Alfie John alfiej@fastmail.fm
Well, this list is particularly susceptible to bullshit and flaming, and there's plenty that could be done to fix it but nothing is. Remailers could be required to have a hashcash header above a value that'd take about a minute to mint, so anonymity comes with a cost. Legit users will happily pay, asshats just looking to flame people will get bored and more on. Users that spam noise more than content are easily blocked by users individually, but persistent nonsense is easy blocked at the list level by moderation; except that the mods here are radical-free-speech guys who equate moderation of their own personal lists to state-level censorship. :P My point being, I guess, that often "activists" play into the hands of "authoritarianism" by aligning themselves against even the most basic methods of maintaining social cohesion. So, Occupy insisted on "consensus", which made it trivial to undermine by simply planting guys in the crowd who'd force "compromises" on important issues that watered them down to nothing. Lots of "info-activists" do similarly, aiming for some global awakening where we all sing together and agree on everything, obviating the need for social norms of any description. ..and the result is that it's trivial to discredit them and their work, or run interference, or make their channels so noisy that non-die-hards will just leave. Hopefully to form their own, somewhat more moderated, channels. On 25/02/14 04:30, Alfie John wrote:
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014, at 02:55 PM, Sampo Syreeni wrote:
So, what should you do when someone clogs your inbox and probably that of thousands of others beside you, with a test email? The kind *everybody* knows shouldn't be sent to a list? Well, complain of course. Horribly. With the slightest tang of ill and cantankerous humour to soften it out just that little bit.
Where were you when they invented netiquette?
Any other time and it might have seemed in bad taste, but given that The Intercept article I linked to was published only hours ago, I thought I was being highly relevant.
Alfie
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Dnia wtorek, 25 lutego 2014 05:55:33 Sampo Syreeni pisze:
On 2014-02-25, Alfie John wrote:
So instead of complaining like Sampo did, "don't feed the trolls" as it could all be part of some JTRIG/HB Gary/Palantir campaign. Just mark-as-read and move on.
Like you just did?
What I don't like is crud seeping through my spam filters. I mostly have it nailed, but test emails still make it. Absent GAI, how could they not?
So, what should you do when someone clogs your inbox and probably that of thousands of others beside you, with a test email? The kind *everybody* knows shouldn't be sent to a list? Well, complain of course. Horribly. With the slightest tang of ill and cantankerous humour to soften it out just that little bit.
Where were you when they invented netiquette?
I am asking the same question myself when I see a thread like that. I mean, 1 test e-mail, already 2 e-mails from the same person complaining about the test e-mail. You, Sir, brought twice as much noise and crud to this list as the original poster. If you need to communicate your disdain for test e-mails (which I find annoying but understandable), why not doing that privately and off-list? Do we all really need to hear your complaining? -- Pozdr rysiek
--On Monday, February 24, 2014 5:56 PM -0600 Cypher <cypher@cpunk.us> wrote:
This is a test to validate if I am properly receiving list email. I've not seen anything in a few days.
I heard that somebody at the nsa forgot to pay for their antivirus subscription, which in turn led to some servers not working properly. Maybe one of those servers is the one hosting this list.
Cypher
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