Autodelete can be a benefit, if truly deleted from extant and backups and overwritten, as most usually just walk away, leaving a huge mining risk. Same for options, default off, to keep any history recordings. These both really should be the default for most services. Only an option to keep handle from reuse if desired.

On 6/4/20 07:14, Karl wrote:

Just to clarify, I'm still using the Telegram account on other channels, and Cecilia had sent a message a few hours before the sudden disconnection.

The UI-experience was of opening the messenger in the morning, seeing a new photo had been sent but had not downloaded yet, and then I don't remember if the application closed itself or I closed it to try to make the photo load, but Cecilia was no longer present in it when I reopened it.  I put her contact back in and never received a reply to a new message.

My memory's not perfect: I thought Cecilia warned us on this list she might disappear for a few weeks due to hospital, but I don't seem to be able to actually find that anywhere.

Okay, that's a horse of an entirely different color. That could very well be an actual Telegram bug. I lack the experience with Telegram to be able to diagnose it further, though the fact that Telegram lets you delete messages and have them disappear *from the history of the account you sent them to* should be noted (and that this is actually intended as a feature, though I consider it much closer to a bug). -- Shawn K. Quinn http://www.rantroulette.com http://www.skqrecordquest.com

Couching this email next to my belief that cpunks is an unmoderated list. Helps me pretend to relax. Man rooty I lost my mind from people saying that kind of stuff to me everywhere when I was actually being hacked. On Fri, Jun 5, 2020, 8:34 PM rooty wrote:

Hi Karl I’m the moderator here. Sea sea is fine we just had to cut her internet off due to off topic post.

Regards rooty

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:14 AM, Karl wrote:

Just to clarify, I'm still using the Telegram account on other channels, and Cecilia had sent a message a few hours before the sudden disconnection.

The UI-experience was of opening the messenger in the morning, seeing a new photo had been sent but had not downloaded yet, and then I don't remember if the application closed itself or I closed it to try to make the photo load, but Cecilia was no longer present in it when I reopened it. I put her contact back in and never received a reply to a new message.

My memory's not perfect: I thought Cecilia warned us on this list she might disappear for a few weeks due to hospital, but I don't seem to be able to actually find that anywhere.

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020, 5:20 AM Shawn K. Quinn wrote:

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On 5/17/20 01:48, Karl wrote:

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Chat History and Contact Mysteriously Erased In Telegram

Per the Telegram FAQ:

Q: How does account self-destruction work?

Telegram is not a commercial organization, and we value our disk space greatly. If you stop using Telegram and don't come online for at least six months, your account will be deleted along with all messages, media, contacts and every other piece of data you store in the Telegram cloud. You can change the exact period after which your inactive account will self-destruct in Settings.

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This is one reason I don't usually use Telegram except when there's no other choice, that and it's difficult to keep a permanent record of what was said (designed in on purpose).

-- Shawn K. Quinn http://www.rantroulette.com http://www.skqrecordquest.com

Cecilia. I will have to rebuild my mind and emotions to comprehend that you are back online. It's good, I really do that a lot. I hope you are well. You live kind of far away to consider being in my life, but it sounds like you'd like me out of yours? How's your storm? I discovered yesterday my laptop's keyboard is sending incorrect keycodes to its mainboard. And I thought the typos were all me! I ordered a replacement from olimex in bulgaria, but I think I might try a pinebook next time, if there is a next time and I can afford it then. It's so exciting to discover there are so many distributors of open source computers. I never knew. Is telegram working for you? I made https://caringneed.org/ . It's a wiki-on-blockchain. It needs somebody to make one edit to it, any change at all really, but I really don't want to burden anyone except myself. I privately messaged 3 other people about losing contact with you and trying to get back in contact. There's some ongoing police violence in my country, and people are archiving scads of video of it, see for example https://github.com/pb-files/pb-videos.git . Karl On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 8:58 PM Cecilia Tanaka wrote:

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020, 21:34 rooty wrote:

Hi Karl I’m the moderator here. Sea sea is fine we just had to cut her

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internet off due to off topic post.

We do NOT need moderators here. If the moderation occurs, I will never back.

Karl, believe me, I swear you do not need someone like me in your life. I live in the middle of the storm. You will not able of recognize me in the chaos and, sorry, it will not be healthy for you, my dear.

Just live your life and make it be a beautiful experience for you and all the others you meet in this short life. Try to be and to make others happier.

Take care... <3

sea sea