Retired NSA Technical Director Explains Snowden Docs
Retired NSA Technical Director Explains Snowden Docs http://www.alexaobrien.com/secondsight/wb/binney.html Best account yet of the Snowden releases by a technically capable person. Eventually, perhaps, the other 96% will receive similar public disclosure to fully inform beyond opportunistic journalism.
On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 07:37:49 -0400 John Young <jya@pipeline.com> wrote:
Retired NSA Technical Director Explains Snowden Docs
" I would never be doing the United States, okay? That's what they're doing here. Only thing I would do is-- I would be looking only at foreign threats basically, which would mean I'd look at the transoceanic cables " these motherfucking sacks of shits seeom to think they own the world...
On Thu, Oct 02, 2014 at 11:43:22PM -0700, coderman wrote:
On 10/2/14, Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
" ... I'd look at the transoceanic cables "
these motherfucking sacks of shits seem to think they own the world...
usable, end to end crypto everywhere, and no longer any reason to look at the cables.
so simple, right?
:)
I suspect crypto is not sufficient. If they own you by some way (backdoor, client bugs, etc) they still will have the info, probably with more efforts.
On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 23:43:22 -0700 coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/2/14, Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
" ... I'd look at the transoceanic cables "
these motherfucking sacks of shits seem to think they own the world...
usable, end to end crypto everywhere, and no longer any reason to look at the cables.
I thought they might want to look at the cables to do so called 'traffic analysis'...? As a matter of fact this criminal binney discusses how they look at who talks to whom, 'metadata', bla bla bla - traffic analysis. On the other hand most of the story, or rather most of the activities of these clown-spies look like bullshit. I highly doubt any 'terrist' worth his salt is going to discuss any plans on some shitty phone from some shitty american company. I'm pretty sure a 'terrist' with modest means can come up with, say, some sort one time pad device and some channel that's not so easily monitored. What can be the real objectives of this 'mass surveillance' thing then? Catching people like Ulbricht perhaps? Of course, the obvious objective is to extend the reach of the US police state into the 'digital domain' but I admit I haven't thought about the implementation details...
so simple, right?
in a sentence : encryption only solves some problems, so not so simple.
:)
On 10/3/14, Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
... in a sentence : encryption only solves some problems, so not so simple.
indeed. and again the theme of eve out of business, then drive mallory to burglary. [ eve sips from cable splits, while mallory middles from switches. but bustin' ins' with black bags so very bad, as always... ] best regards,
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
What can be the real objectives of this 'mass surveillance' thing then? Catching people like Ulbricht perhaps?
The objective is ownership... of the world, of everyone, of you. Lest those provide any offset to them, or their fantasies.
but I admit I haven't thought about the implementation details...
Sorry, no time for thought, there's a six in the fridge and the Simpsons are on TV.
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 21:41:00 -0400 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
but I admit I haven't thought about the implementation details...
Sorry, no time for thought, there's a six in the fridge and the Simpsons are on TV.
heh - I've never watched the simpsons. I've watched south park and the whitest kids, though. Speaking of which... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2BfqDUPL1I
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