Re: [liberationtech] Why can’t email be secure? - Silent Circle Blog
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:59 AM, katana <katana@riseup.net> wrote:
... as Ladar replied in <http://www.democracynow.org/2013/8/13/exclusive_owner_of_snowdens_email_service> to Amy's question 'Do you think people should use email?': 'Yeah, I think it’s a great way to communicate ... And I think email still has a very important role to play in communication between people.' ACK.
it is a question of private vs. public communication. email is and will continue to be useful for public communication. this gmail account indexes 190+ lists, 10,000 news alerts from scores of filters (everything from "TS//SI//NF" to "Flame OR Gauss OR Duqu OR Stuxnet" to Goldreich–Goldwasser–Halevi), a total of 643,132 pieces of communication. i can search through all of it in seconds and apply new filters to existing content just as easily as new, and keep an offline backup just in case. but there is zero i would consider private; for that use a medium of communication that is not a usability failure, that is not a metadata leakage nightmare, that is not an operational security mine field. let email _for private communication_ die already, please!
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 1:21 PM, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
... 10,000 news alerts from scores of filters (everything from "TS//SI//NF" to "Flame OR Gauss OR Duqu OR Stuxnet" to Goldreich–Goldwasser–Halevi),..
sometime over the past few weeks google alerts has started filtering (certain?) NSA codewords from alert matches. ah well, nice while it lasted...
Seems a lot like China no? Adam On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 05:10:46PM -0700, coderman wrote:
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 1:21 PM, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
... 10,000 news alerts from scores of filters (everything from "TS//SI//NF" to "Flame OR Gauss OR Duqu OR Stuxnet" to Goldreich–Goldwasser–Halevi),..
sometime over the past few weeks google alerts has started filtering (certain?) NSA codewords from alert matches.
ah well, nice while it lasted...
I highly doubt Google is filtering stuff out for the NSA. The simpler explanation is that Google Alerts is 100% broken<http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/07/30/google-alerts-are-broken/> because it makes Google no money and doesn't do much for their core business interests. For my own alerts, it's been sending me results from 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 in random order, over and over, repeating results, for many moons now. I've switched to using Talkwalker<http://www.talkwalker.com/alerts/>instead. -- Eric On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Adam Back <adam@cypherspace.org> wrote:
Seems a lot like China no?
Adam
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 05:10:46PM -0700, coderman wrote:
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 1:21 PM, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
... 10,000 news alerts from scores of filters (everything from "TS//SI//NF" to "Flame OR Gauss OR Duqu OR Stuxnet" to Goldreich–Goldwasser–Halevi),.**.
sometime over the past few weeks google alerts has started filtering (certain?) NSA codewords from alert matches.
ah well, nice while it lasted...
-- konklone.com | @konklone <https://twitter.com/konklone>
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Eric Mill <eric@konklone.com> wrote:
I highly doubt Google is filtering stuff out for the NSA... The simpler explanation is that Google Alerts is 100% broken because it makes Google no money and doesn't do much for their core business interests.
i suppose Hanlon's razor is apropos... (this is a convenient flaw, in any case ;)
I've switched to using Talkwalker instead.
thanks for the tip; i like it better already! https://www.talkwalker.com/alerts best regards,
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