Re: From sand to silicon chips, openly
Its one thing to have open CPUs but what about the rest of the hardware you need to build actual products? The best answers today are probably only be found in Shenzhen. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SGJ5cZnoodY On Wed, Mar 21, 2018, 9:13 AM Steven Schear <schear.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
http://parallel.princeton.edu/openpiton/open_source_processors.php
-------- Original message --------From: Steven Schear <schear.steve@gmail.com> Date: 3/24/18 5:09 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Subject: Re: From sand to silicon chips, openly Its one thing to have open CPUs but what about the rest of the hardware you need to build actual products? The best answers today are probably only be found in Shenzhen. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SGJ5cZnoodY Welp thats all done then, considering China is smacking Trump's ass about tariffs. Just today one of the bay area papers was pointing out the connection between their ability to tariff amost everything related to the electromechanical end of the computer industry and Google/Twiitter/Facebook engineers sleeping in a refrigerator box by the river. Rr On Wed, Mar 21, 2018, 9:13 AM Steven Schear <schear.steve@gmail.com> wrote: http://parallel.princeton.edu/openpiton/open_source_processors.php
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:09:00 +0000 Steven Schear <schear.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
Its one thing to have open CPUs but what about the rest of the hardware you need to build actual products? The best answers today are probably only be found in Shenzhen.
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SGJ5cZnoodY Some interesting, anti IP thoughts in there. ^^^^^ here's more stuff from bunnie huang more ed2k://|file|The%20Hardware%20Hacker_%20Adventures%20in%20Making%20and%20Breaking%20Hardware%20-%20Andrew%20_bunnie_%20Huang%20(No%20Starch%20Press;2017;9781593277581;eng).pdf|31906259|1ADD4CA296098F73CB070E31FA2FB863|/ " every January, instead of going to the frenzied Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, I rented a cheap apartment in Shenzhen and engaged in the “monastic study of manufacturing”; for the price of one night in Las Vegas, I lived in Shenzhen for a month. I deliberately picked neighborhoods with no English speakers and forced myself to learn the language and customs to survive. (Although I’m ethnically Chinese, my parents pri- oritized accent-free fluency in English over learning Chinese"
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018, 9:13 AM Steven Schear <schear.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
http://parallel.princeton.edu/openpiton/open_source_processors.php
On 3/28/2018 4:43 AM, juan wrote:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:09:00 +0000 Steven Schear <schear.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
Its one thing to have open CPUs but what about the rest of the hardware you need to build actual products? The best answers today are probably only be found in Shenzhen.
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SGJ5cZnoodY
Some interesting, anti IP thoughts in there. ^^^^^
here's more stuff from bunnie huang more
ed2k://|file|The%20Hardware%20Hacker_%20Adventures%20in%20Making%20and%20Breaking%20Hardware%20-%20Andrew%20_bunnie_%20Huang%20(No%20Starch%20Press;2017;9781593277581;eng).pdf|31906259|1ADD4CA296098F73CB070E31FA2FB863|/
A short time ago, China was well behind us in computer hardware, and was cloning and copying by rote. Lots of people predicted that as they caught up with us, their rate of progress would slow down, that they would always be one step behind. China is now nine months ahead of us in computer hardware, and the gap is growing. Notice that everyone can name the Soviet and US spy agencies, but no one can name the Chinese agencies, not even members of the Chinese spy agencies, which have far too many names, and no name at all. Some of the US aligned deep state agencies, the five eyes, have come to be entirely dominated by the US. The Canadian spy agencies appear to be completely dominated by the US agencies, though as US power declines, we could see something dramatic happen - or more likely something dramatic will silently happen, and it will be hidden from us, until we notice that US State Department organized protests, like the children's crusade against guns, are no longer echoed in Canada. The Australian deep state appears to be hedging its bets. From time to time it does things that make the Blue Empire very unhappy. It is currently in a state of grave conflict with the Chinese spy apparatus, but is keeping its options open for a re-alignment from the US to China, having both friendly and unfriendly contact with the quietly tolerated Chinese spy apparatus in Australia. Australia has a cadre of diplomats that are owned by the US blue state, plus some diplomats that owned by the Australian deep state, the Australian branch of the five eyes, resulting frequent conflict within Australia's diplomatic apparatus.
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