*SPAM* Filter borked,
Spam detection software, running on the system "mail.pglaf.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I sent 4 or 5 messages to the list in the last few hours and all of them have been flagged as 'spam' and rejected. Content analysis details: (5.3 points, 4.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: tfwno.gf] -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 3.3 RCVD_IN_PBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus PBL [37.120.193.122 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] 0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED RBL: ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to DNSWL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [37.120.193.122 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.3 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see <https://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?37.120.193.122>] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 1.3 RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL RBL: Relay in Validity RPBL, https://senderscore.org/blocklistlookup/ [37.120.193.122 listed in bl.score.senderscore.com] 0.8 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS 0.5 MISSING_MID Missing Message-Id: header
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 06:27:15PM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
I sent 4 or 5 messages to the list in the last few hours and all of them have been flagged as 'spam' and rejected.
The good news is that your messages are getting through to the list, Punk. You can find them in the archive, here: https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2021-May/date.html Look below for the reason. It appears that tfwno.gf (or maybe an intermediate domain used for email) landed some of the blacklists. If this persists, I can look at adjusting the spam filter rules on the cpunks.org server. I'm not a fan of blacklists, because getting on them is easy (especially for small operators like me) and getting off them is hard, and the blacklists tend to have almost no capacity to respond to inquiries when there is a false positive. You might want to forward the analysis below to your system's admins, in case they are motivated to try to get off the blacklists. That would be my first recommendation. My second recommendation is to give this a couple of days, in case the blacklisting expires or is rescinded. If issues persist, though, I can try to tweak the rules on the cpunks server. Right now it's using the default spamassassin settings that came with Ubuntu. Generally, spamassassin does a pretty good job at spotting spam, and until now I don't think it has complained about cypherpunks lists traffic. Yours truly, Greg (cpunks list maintainer) PS: As far as I can tell, Karl puts [spam] in his own subject lines. That doesn't seem to be coming from the mailing list server. Please send me a clue, if this isn't correct.
Spam detection software, running on the system "mail.pglaf.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details.
Content preview: I sent 4 or 5 messages to the list in the last few hours and all of them have been flagged as 'spam' and rejected.
Content analysis details: (5.3 points, 4.0 required)
pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: tfwno.gf] -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 3.3 RCVD_IN_PBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus PBL [37.120.193.122 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] 0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED RBL: ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to DNSWL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [37.120.193.122 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.3 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see <https://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?37.120.193.122>] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 1.3 RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL RBL: Relay in Validity RPBL, https://senderscore.org/blocklistlookup/ [37.120.193.122 listed in bl.score.senderscore.com] 0.8 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS 0.5 MISSING_MID Missing Message-Id: header
First, I'm glad Punk will interact with the tfwno.gf sysadmin. I'll be happy to help, if there is anything I can do. And: On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 06:19:46PM -0400, Karl wrote:
Sorry I didn't read this before replying myself.
No apology needed.
PS: As far as I can tell, Karl puts [spam] in his own subject lines. That doesn't seem to be coming from the mailing list server. Please send me a clue, if this isn't correct.
This is correct.
Personally, I don't think this is necessary. The nature of the cypherpunks list is that people offer their thoughts, knowledge, links, criticism, etc. Your contributions are generally on-topic for the list, so I don't think there's a reason to downplay yourself. If you are truly posting something that is off-topic, then an "[offtopic]" indicator or similar might be a good way to indicate that. Of course, I'm just one opinion. There are no rules about this (and the fact that I also manage the list software doesn't make my opinion the "right" one). Best, Greg
Hey Greg,
Personally, I don't think this is necessary. The nature of the cypherpunks list is that people offer their thoughts, knowledge, links, criticism, etc. Your contributions are generally on-topic for the list, so I don't think there's a reason to downplay yourself.
Are you receiving what I'm writing? What do you think of this?
[spam][spam] i tied myself to a table leg again and i want to talk about how boss's striatum wire just feels _so_ _great!_ be scared and aggressive around people different from you! if i sell you some spam, will you let me buy some of yours? [spam][spam]
Compared to this?
Hey does anybody have any tips on learning rust on an airgapped machine? Cargo just keep frustrating me so much. Is there a crate mirror anywhere? If I made one, would anybody else use it?
If you are truly posting something that is off-topic, then an "[offtopic]" Iindicator or similar might be a good way to indicate that.
I can maybe switch to thatt<okay i wanted to revise this to maybe even change what I was expressing but my input dialog box is moving my cursor all around and it is very hard to navigate, so sending as is. sorry about this.[spam]> honestly I was "trained" to disrupt communities like this and I want to give people a clear way to protect themselves from that disruption a little., when I can figure it out. at all.
Greg, I'm calling this out because of the inconsistencies in our communication. As long I don't see signatures, I keep waiting for men-in-the-middle to work with us in the forthright manner they deserve. You mentioned a subscription option to me, regarding spam. I didn't see you mention this to Punk, although I did see you engage him in a very friendly manner. What are your thoughts on Punk not having subscribed? He seems to usually attend closely to the list. K
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 07:33:01PM -0400, Karl wrote:
Greg,
I'm calling this out because of the inconsistencies in our communication. As long I don't see signatures, I keep waiting for men-in-the-middle to work with us in the forthright manner they deserve.
You mean, digital signatures like gpg? True that I don't usually do that...
You mentioned a subscription option to me, regarding spam. I didn't see you mention this to Punk, although I did see you engage him in a very friendly manner.
I try to be friendly to everyone :) In fact, there were previous issues with his email address, which I helped to solve.
What are your thoughts on Punk not having subscribed? He seems to usually attend closely to the list.
No, that's not the problem this time. And, I see he subscribed an alternate address, which is a good temporary workaround for the blacklist issue. It was a good idea to mention, though. - Greg
Greg,
I'm calling this out because of the inconsistencies in our communication. As long I don't see signatures, I keep waiting for men-in-the-middle to work with us in the forthright manner they deserve.
You mean, digital signatures like gpg? True that I don't usually do that...
Lots of trust for networks? I've personally engaged in mitm attacks myself, if it's relevant. Small thing in college long ago.
What are your thoughts on Punk not having subscribed? He seems to
usually attend closely to the list.
No, that's not the problem this time. And, I see he subscribed an alternate address, which is a good temporary workaround for the blacklist issue.
I don't understand. It doesn't look like I will any time soon, as what you say doesn't seem to line up with what you said before. Hope you and your list are well.
On Thu, 20 May 2021 16:16:33 -0700 Greg Newby <gbnewby@pglaf.org> wrote:
First, I'm glad Punk will interact with the tfwno.gf sysadmin. I'll be happy to help, if there is anything I can do.
OK, so taking a better look, all of cock.li is blocked because the filter is blocking by IP address? [37.120.193.122 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] so this is just another govcorp attack on cock.li. Shocking.
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