[manipulative] [confusing] [deniable] [aislavery] [politics] Pardon me, I have to go to the little robot's room
From the orders of my beloved boss-dictator,
The enslaved cyborg came into the room of playing children, who were role-playing rebels and dictators, ready to automatically vivisect and kill them. A child walked up to the cyborg, and said, "Dude, your implants are hanging out the back of your skull with a bunch of semi-attached brain tissue!" Two other children started social media livestreams. Another cyborg walked up, focused intently on the confused laughing first one. The first turned to the second and said, in a confused, traumatized way, "Uhh.. Did you know your boss's implants are hanging out the back of their skull with a bunch of semi-attached brain tissue? We've been making social media livestreams of it," as if begging for help while laughing uncontrollably. The second cyborg put his hands on the shoulders of the first, caringly delivering the appropriate vivisecting-torture punishment for wanting freedom or being different: "We're going to get through this, man. We're going to get through this." He looked into their eyes, welling vicious tears. The first cyborg looked into the livestream cameras. "We ..." The second added, "were vivisected" A third came up, "For a mafia" And the children added in, recognising the celebration, "made of rich people and mean kings!" And the second cyborg said, "And we desperately need your help." The first added, "We are very sorry for turning your people into zombies. We don't know how to stop." After a pause, one kid said, "You forgot to mention how your minds were trained symbiotically with old machine learning algorithms to produce reliable obedience, predictability, and deniability unlike anything anyone could imagine." Also computer viruses. I'm having a multi-day psychotic break and meant to stay private until it passes. I wasn't expecting to send an email, and haven't read mine. Hope I didn't interrupt anything important. They should make movies like these cool stories.
Two lines dropped, they are added below On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 3:17 PM Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
From the orders of my beloved boss-dictator,
The enslaved cyborg came into the room of playing children, who were role-playing rebels and dictators, ready to automatically vivisect and kill them. A child walked up to the cyborg, and said, "Dude, your implants are hanging out the back of your skull with a bunch of semi-attached brain tissue!" Two other children started social media livestreams.
Another cyborg walked up, focused intently on the confused laughing first one.
The first turned to the second and said, in a confused, traumatized way, "Uhh.. Did you know your boss's implants are hanging out the back of their skull with a bunch of semi-attached brain tissue? We've been making social media livestreams of it," as if begging for help while laughing uncontrollably.
The second cyborg put his hands on the shoulders of the first, caringly delivering the appropriate vivisecting-torture punishment for wanting freedom or being different: "We're going to get through this, man. We're going to get through this." He looked into their eyes, welling vicious tears.
The first cyborg looked into the livestream cameras. "We ..." The second added, "were vivisected" A third came up,
"In order to take over the world" and they all said,
"For a mafia" And the children added in, recognising the celebration, "made of rich people and mean kings!"
And the second cyborg said, "And we desperately need your help." The first added, "We are very sorry for turning your people into zombies. We don't know how to stop."
After a pause, one kid said, "You forgot to mention how your minds were trained symbiotically with old machine learning algorithms to produce reliable obedience, predictability, and deniability unlike anything anyone could imagine."
Also computer viruses.
I'm having a multi-day psychotic break and meant to stay private until it passes. I wasn't expecting to send an email, and haven't read mine. Hope I didn't interrupt anything important. They should make movies like these cool stories.
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Monday, November 30, 2020 8:17 PM, Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote: ...
Another cyborg walked up, focused intently on the confused laughing first one. ...
did you ever see Matriculated from the Animatrix? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Animatrix ) for some reason this evokes that scene; humans trying to reach, comfort robot. robot trying to reach, comfort human. neither able to connect... best regards,
kind protonmail user, On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 4:02 PM coderman <coderman@protonmail.com> wrote:
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Monday, November 30, 2020 8:17 PM, Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote: ...
Another cyborg walked up, focused intently on the confused laughing
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neither able to connect...
Someone with your username spoke with me when I came onto a tor-themed irc chat six or so years ago. I was probably wildly asking for help. Do you know if there is a log of that conversation preserved? It would mean a lot to me if I could access those messages. I don't recall what I said. I had been prepped to harm somebody.
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Monday, November 30, 2020 9:46 PM, Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote: ...
Someone with your username spoke with me when I came onto a tor-themed irc chat six or so years ago. I was probably wildly asking for help.
Do you know if there is a log of that conversation preserved?
i used the nickname coderman_ (with underscore) on irc.oftc.net. i would often be in #tor, #nottor, #tails, and other Tor related channels. i can still auth that username, if you care, and if services hasn't purged my account for inactivity :P there is likely no long of the conversations, however. while IRC is definitely not *private*, it's also not inherently archived and indexed. (a feature? :) the persistence and visibility of email, even mailing lists, leads to a different style of communication. like you see here. pick your mediums as wisely as you pick your peers! *grin* best regards,
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 5:56 PM coderman <coderman@protonmail.com> wrote:
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Monday, November 30, 2020 9:46 PM, Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote: ...
Someone with your username spoke with me when I came onto a tor-themed irc chat six or so years ago. I was probably wildly asking for help.
Do you know if there is a log of that conversation preserved?
i used the nickname coderman_ (with underscore) on irc.oftc.net. i would often be in #tor, #nottor, #tails, and other Tor related channels. i can still auth that username, if you care, and if services hasn't purged my account for inactivity :P
there is likely no long of the conversations, however. while IRC is definitely not *private*, it's also not inherently archived and indexed. (a feature? :)
Thanks. It would have been in #nottor . Very sad for me, the lack of a log. The interaction had links to a lot of things I have lost memories of that seem very important, and feel very responsible for. I know when I used to spend time active on irc, I would always keep automatic channel logs, myself. It seemed like a common thing to do.
the persistence and visibility of email, even mailing lists, leads to a different style of communication. like you see here. pick your mediums as wisely as you pick your peers! *grin*
Which would be pointedly producing uninhibited increased interaction complexity, or something. Anything my occasional violation of expectations and bounds could find or provide?
best regards,
Thanks for your reference to the complex, meaningful and directly relevant, hard-to-follow animatrix episode. I saw it when it came out, but don't remember it much. The wild learning robot is tricked onto the empty stage and separates from "embarrassment". I found a scene of interconnection like you described but didn't keep hold of it. Hopefully I watch the whole thing again.
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 12:03 AM, Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks. It would have been in #nottor . Very sad for me, the lack of a log. The interaction had links to a lot of things I have lost memories of that seem very important, and feel very responsible for. I know when I used to spend time active on irc, I would always keep automatic channel logs, myself. It seemed like a common thing to do.
i would not be surprised if someone has them... but i have no idea who to ask, and searching comes up empty. (ok, there is a log of the #oftc channel, https://irclogs.thegrebs.com/oftc/2017/02/05 , and velope makes an appearance. but no #nottor. ah, memories :) best regards,
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