Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'
On Feb 20, 2017, at 11:25 PM, James A. Donald <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote:
Attached are Sweden's rape statistics.
Which you are not going to hear or see on the Counterfeit News Network, but you will get alerted to by Trump. <Clipboard01.gif>
I realize nuance and, you know, reading and thinking about something, don't come naturally to your or your ilk, but i'll go ahead and repost the following link: http://www.factcheck.org/2017/02/trump-exaggerates-swedish-crime/ Henrik Selin, head of the Department for Intercultural Dialogue at the Swedish Institute, told us the surge of asylum seekers in 2015 has created challenges for Sweden, but he said reports from right-leaning media about a surge of immigrant crime have been “highly exaggerated.” “So many things are being claimed,” Selin said. “If you look at the facts, there is nothing to support the claim that the crime rate took off after the 160,000 came in 2015.” Crime has generally been trending down for the last decade, but there was a small uptick last year, he said. While it’s true that immigrants have been over-represented among those committing crimes — particularly in some suburban communities heavily populated by immigrants, he said — the issue of crime and immigration is complex. Upon closer examination, Selin said, researchers have found that the crime is more closely associated with factors like joblessness, poverty and exclusion from society. “It is not clear that immigrants are susceptible to committing such crimes,” he said. Nor is it at all true, Selin said, that there are so-called no-go zones where police are afraid to patrol, or where locals have instituted sharia law, as Horowitz claimed. Selin’s refutation was echoed by Felipe Estrada Dörner, a criminology professor at Stockholm University, interviewed by the Washington Post. But that is not to say there are not some “challenges in the short term … that we need to deal with,” Selin said. Jerzy Sarnecki, a criminology professor at Stockholm University, said that claims about surging violence due to immigration are “lies.” “But really good lies always have a little bit of truth in them,” Sarnecki told us in an email. “So also in this case.” Sarnecki noted that Sweden has a “very broad legal definition of rape” and that “Swedish women are aware of their rights and have a high propensity to report sexual assaults, and we calculate crimes in a different manner than comparable countries.”
On 2/21/2017 2:40 PM, John Newman wrote:
http://www.factcheck.org/2017/02/trump-exaggerates-swedish-crime/
Henrik Selin, head of the Department for Intercultural Dialogue at the Swedish Institute, told us the surge of asylum seekers in 2015 has created challenges for Sweden, but he said reports from right-leaning media about a surge of immigrant crime have been “highly exaggerated.”
Progressive lies: We see videos reporting that certain substantial and important areas have become no go areas for white women. These videos are anecdotes of particular places and particular times, and could, perhaps like the anecdotes of global warming, be cherry picked and unrepresentative. But: We also see that thee interpretations of statistics that come up with reassuring pieties, interpretations of statistics that tell us Sweden is doing fine, are evasive, avoid presenting the data we are genuinely interested in, namely, Sweden's extraordinarily high rape rate, and what proportion of Sweden's extraordinarily high rape rate is the result of rapes by military age Muslims entering as refugee/asylum "children". From what these pious reassurances do not tell us, from what they avoid saying, from what is not said, we can legitimately infer that what the anecdotes do tell us is representative of the truth, that Swedes are submitting to violent Islamic conquest.
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