----- Forwarded message from zooko <zooko@zooko.com> ----- Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 23:11:22 +0400 From: zooko <zooko@zooko.com> To: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Cc: cryptography@randombit.net Subject: Re: [cryptography] LeastAuthority.com announces PRISM-proof storage service User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 03:16:33PM -0500, Nico Williams wrote:

Nothing really gets anyone past the enormous supply of zero-day vulns in their complete stacks. In the end I assume there's no technological PRISM workarounds.

I agree that compromise of the client is relevant. My current belief is that nobody is doing this on a mass scale, pwning entire populations at once, and that if they do, we will find out about it. My goal with the S4 product is not primarily to help people who are being targeted by their enemies, but to increase the cost of indiscriminately surveilling entire populations. Now maybe it was a mistake to label it as "PRISM-Proof" in our press release and media interviews! I said that because to me "PRISM" means mass surveillance of innocents. Perhaps to other people it doesn't mean that. Oops! Regards, Zooko _______________________________________________ cryptography mailing list cryptography@randombit.net http://lists.randombit.net/mailman/listinfo/cryptography ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://ativel.com http://postbiota.org AC894EC5: 38A5 5F46 A4FF 59B8 336B 47EE F46E 3489 AC89 4EC5