Ideals in crypto: Apple must help Feds unlock San Bernardino killer's iPhone – judge
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/17/apple_help_fbi_san_bernardino/ ==== Apple must assist the FBI in unlocking the passcode-protected encrypted iPhone belonging to one of the San Bernardino shooters in California. ... It’s technically possible for Apple to hack a device’s PIN, wipe, and other functions. Question is can they be legally forced to hack," said iOS security expert Jonathan Ździarski. ==== Remember the NSA key on windoze? ;)
On February 17, 2016 4:24:01 AM Georgi Guninski <guninski@guninski.com> wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/17/apple_help_fbi_san_bernardino/
Tim Cook vociferously objects: http://www.apple.com/customer-letter/ I don't like Apple or their products, but I applaud this stance. -S
==== Apple must assist the FBI in unlocking the passcode-protected encrypted iPhone belonging to one of the San Bernardino shooters in California.
...
It’s technically possible for Apple to hack a device’s PIN, wipe, and other functions. Question is can they be legally forced to hack," said iOS security expert Jonathan Ździarski. ====
Remember the NSA key on windoze? ;)
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 04:30:29AM -0800, Shelley wrote:
On February 17, 2016 4:24:01 AM Georgi Guninski <guninski@guninski.com> wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/17/apple_help_fbi_san_bernardino/
Tim Cook vociferously objects:
Lol, the cynic in me suspects this is just PR on part of apple and propaganda for 'merrycunts on part of the feds. btw, have there been similar requests to windoze and android vendors? (i don't remember such). Are turrists smart enough to know the above spy them at least as the fruit?
On February 17, 2016 5:40:57 AM Georgi Guninski <guninski@guninski.com> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 04:30:29AM -0800, Shelley wrote:
Tim Cook vociferously objects:
Lol, the cynic in me suspects this is just PR on part of apple and propaganda for 'merrycunts on part of the feds.
'merrycunts made me laugh out loud (probably because I'm a quart low on caffeine!) I'd never underestimate the efforts of the propaganda machine here; It's entirely possible this is a bunch of obfuscational BS. As I understand it, crApple already gave the feds access to everything else associated with that phone (icloud account, etc) including forensic guidance. Maybe these people were astute enough to figure out how to keep local data from being sent to the cloud (if the feds noticed something that should have been backed up is conspicuously missing, such as contacts etc)? Also, if the feds truly couldn't crack something I highly doubt they'd make an appeal that wasn't under seal. Way to tip off the ter'rists as to which hardware to buy, right? Doesn't really make sense.
btw, have there been similar requests to windoze and android vendors? (i don't remember such).
Windoze is itself a virus and full of back doors all on its own, so I don't think they need to ask :p I know some versions of Android used to be able to be remotely unlocked (not just wiped), but I think that vuln has been closed. I'm not sure if similar legal requests/demands have been made of M$FT and Google, I'll look into it.
Are turrists smart enough to know the above spy them at least as the fruit?
Apple routinely perpetrates invasive monitoring of its lusers. Their crapware is closed source and they design their hardware to be impossibly difficult to service or modify for the end user. For the life of me, I cannot see the appeal of any aspect of that company or of their products. -S
Yep. Marketing. Crypto producers been doing that forever. King's coin wins sec contracts, the serfs get wooden nickles with Robin Hood sig. At 08:40 AM 2/17/2016, you wrote:
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 04:30:29AM -0800, Shelley wrote:
On February 17, 2016 4:24:01 AM Georgi Guninski <guninski@guninski.com> wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/17/apple_help_fbi_san_bernardino/
Tim Cook vociferously objects:
Lol, the cynic in me suspects this is just PR on part of apple and propaganda for 'merrycunts on part of the feds.
btw, have there been similar requests to windoze and android vendors? (i don't remember such).
Are turrists smart enough to know the above spy them at least as the fruit?
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Lol, the cynic in me suspects this is just PR on part of apple and propaganda for 'merrycunts on part of the feds.
btw, have there been similar requests to windoze and android vendors? (i don't remember such).
Are turrists smart enough to know the above spy them at least as the fruit?
This would be the same Apple reported to routinely decrypt seized iPhones for LEAs? http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-deluged-by-police-demands-to-decrypt- iphones/ The same Apple that has reportedly back-doored these same systems? https://threatpost.com/researcher-identifies-hidden-data-acquisition - -services-in-ios/107335/ The same Apple that was lined up to bid on the DoD's super-secret Romas/COIN a.k.a. Odyssey mobile phone user tracking / spying / PsyOps / drone targeting program? http://wiki.project-pm.org/wiki/Romas/COIN Would they, could they do a thing like that? Of course not. Everyone knows Apple markets to Liberal Arts majors. :D -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWxIWuAAoJEDZ0Gg87KR0Ly3AQAKBoetGQTeocDzSGz1nrBYyE lu58/Rn26qC5p3++WiXmEUTygluXuY7uKvDCCiIBN0kp77m/UnQBgorLWaM8y82+ kdeywketIjYbVwEGLpjrulH/CIsOEpBAPET2ews0IbxNmWUEdoU31CnjMsGntPuT ml9YhFpIV4c2tfHmlKVVMXcjtaWnUn667pP4IXnfI30p6JXcbi5z5Zus8UWcuZLx vDV4ziop/yXoLww6Gb3iYR8x9zAqC3Lb3V3d/oECxFS/ZVGal7BtxJfjWCHs/uf9 4r3WMA1NqRvD1orxD+LD98j9SLLRngLXPnKPtvcsvenjtc/pfxD6GiQsgB0whSdY u7UFfldA1gAL3oqRv6T7WhNUksS6F0o4yo0iut/shs1VvbGEI0T2we8rrR7xQyq1 SxOAx/gKGo4Ld0ltnCPtkGJObnNa7MXfvhdCo8qsW+/AhupWGFRb8uxayRrhIef3 osXz0sveQHumlVemP7mWyT8hDF3F5Kqu3laycB1vo5kYt3CpNpinaYhYNIxKlxKu YdMUevUS/+qAQZOUdQQ9OXpFSIJBAtipq2j7rmoCHM4/hoZWuBkfsJjrjpt90zPI B42q3YLVF0fIIVaMnNARJp2dWHCW9COLEDHbXT9HAAg4oy93R6tSXPuf+9az/cPA LmKcUd1SiN5OHH8g7J1a =Punf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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