Re: [tor-relays] PSA: Tor 0.4.5 reaches end of life (EOL) on 2023-02-15
On 1/23/23, Georg Koppen <gk@torproject.org> wrote:
the 0.4.5 series is going EOL
There are multiple good reasons NOT to do this arbitrary thing. Is the Tor Project Incorporated (TPI) ever going to unbrick all its comms channels so that users and everyone else can freely see and talk about such tor things and more, or will TPI continue to mass censor tor threads, including this one, off all its fora. "Tor Stinks -- NSA, vulns known since before 2012" Fuck your cowardly censorship. And stop putting tor users at risk.
On 5/18/23, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/23/23, Georg Koppen <gk@torproject.org> wrote:
the 0.4.5 series is going EOL
There are multiple good reasons NOT to do this arbitrary thing.
Is the Tor Project Incorporated (TPI) ever going to unbrick all its comms channels so that users and everyone else can freely see and talk about such tor things and more, or will TPI continue to mass censor tor threads, including this one, off all its fora.
"Tor Stinks -- NSA, vulns known since before 2012"
Fuck your cowardly censorship. And stop putting tor users at risk.
it's really heartening to see this pot to the tor lists [i wanted to relate that it looks to me like it is a private collection of spy groups sustaining a good chunk of the censorship i encounter, rather than the censored group channels in particular. these private-appearing groups appear to have people working inside and influence over the public groups. i think people used to resist such things by for example suggesting communication channels move onto more cryptographical sound media]
On 5/18/23, Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
it's really heartening to see this post to the tor lists
If you actually bothered to check the tor archives, you would discover that in fact the "moderator [1]" aka Tor Project Incorporated has blocked the post off all four of its lists. So no one on them saw it on any of them. In fact, Tor Project Incorporated has blocked and refused to post dozens of perfectly legitimate open posts and points made by multiple people over the years. Clearly, Tor Project Incorporated is defrauding its users from seeing discussing and gaining potential knowledge and protections regarding tor's not broadly known to users, intentionally disadvertised and whitewashed away from sight, fatal design flaws and conflicts of interest, among other problems. Tor Project Incorporated is thus putting its users at substantial risk. Tor Project Incorporated is plainly resorting to CENSORSHIP to hide some embarassing things... including its GovMil designed funded and operationally governed software, and Govt funded programs and Govt funded staff's career monied interests above users, and certainly now many might say is suspect of keeping its design weak to support its ties to user adversaries such as the GovMil NSA CIA and partner entities incl ISP threats. Tor design has stayed 25 years old, while threats advanced light years, yet Tor Project Incorporated chooses silence refusing to even publicly speculating on design weakness in such wide public needed and vocal manner so as to inform warn users of some real issues. Yet CIA and more now advertise to "Use Tor". Such SpyVeillors, DataMiners, and agencies and entities are not willfully in the habit of globally recommending that which they cannot crack. Tor is presenting a growing discongruence with at least now huge advancements in adversarial capabilities if not dire abject realworld application, and no one is talking about it. TPI is so afraid of embarassing things that even after declaring themselves to be hypocrites "bricking up" fora counter to their faux professed free speech principles, thus killing their lists, that they still laughably CENSOR those dead lists. Tor Project has been caught disencouraging vulnerability researchers. And caught acknowledging its intentional extensive censorship of its fora. TPI must be held to account. tor needs to be forked. And other completely new overlay network designs need to be created, coded, openly competed, and rolled out into operation. [1] Moderator: noun, one who facilitates free open conversations, not one who total blanket CENSORBANS all conversations and topics off all channels entirely. "Tor Stinks -- NSA, vulns known since before 2012"
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