On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 21:18:49 -0700, grarpamp wrote:

On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Seth wrote:

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...have you heard about it? No? Well...odds are you've already given implied consent for the IoT.

Film looks relavant on many levels but is long.

This is true. For those that don't have the time or desire or watch, some takeaways: The biggest takeaway is that jig is up with the current business model of centralized power distribution. The growth of decentralized power production (home solar etc) is driving a stake into the heart of the beast. The power company execs know this openly admit as much. So they are changing business models to one of CENTRALIZED DATA HARVESTING AND SURVEILLANCE. 'smart meters' are a massive and global offensive thrust of the 'Internet of Things' surveillance state and control grid directly into the home. They form a mesh network on the 900Mhz band. They are supposed to have 2.4Ghz radio (not yet widely activated) for extracting surveillance data and controlling 'smart' appliances in the home. I use the term 'smart' in quotes because it is a goddamn propaganda term and needs to be replaced in the popular culture as soon as possible with something more apt and mocking, say 'evil-genius'. I will use the term 'evil-genius' meters from now on. Anyways, these evil-genius meters douse your house with something on the order of 40,000 microwave pulses a day. The meters are built in China, and allegedly have not had any real safety testing done on them. The AC-DC converters used to power the evil genius brain in these devices is supposedly a crap one and generates a significant power waste along with 'dirty electricity' (that is a choppy or rough sine wave instead of smooth clean one) which radiates throughout the home via the electrical wiring. The legal principle of 'implied consent' being used to justify the stealth installation of the meters world wide is a very shaky one. The vast majority of people that are having these meters installed on their homes by the power company are complete unaware of what is going on. It's a classic trojan horse. It's also a contractual violation. To have a valid contract there must be an offer, consideration, and acceptance. There is none of this with the evil-genius meter roll-outs. They simply are putting them in without asking the customer for permission. Depending on the jurisdiction, you can refuse the evil-genius meter, but then you're hit with an extortionate monthly 'meter reading' fee, which was not charged before the evil-genius meter roll-out began. Some people in the Los Angeles area that have refused evil-genius meter installation, have been locked into months long battle with the utility company and consequently LIVING WITHOUT ELECTRICITY for months on end. Now that is some crazy shit, now matter how you slice it. WHY are the companies so adamant about having these devices installed to the point where they're willing to cut off a resister's power for months on end, and foregoing that revenue? Perhaps to make an example out of them? I could go on and on. If you anybody that sleeps in a room next to one of these devices, *especially* if they are pregnant women or young children, get them the fuck away from it as soon as possible, ideally by having the device removed and replaced with an analog one, or by changing rooms or living locations.

On 07/05/2015 03:24 PM, Seth wrote:

the 500 Billion dollar a year industry needed to obtain special legal protection absolving them of any liability in a 1998 U.S. Telecommunications bill rider.

Don't know, or believe, there were any medically related issues addressed by that rider, albeit the Finns were studying cell phone radiation early on, but rider to the bill gave them common carrier status to legally prohibit people with scanners from monitoring what at the time were mostly (if not all) analog radio transmissions. Early users of cellies, much like now, weren't technically literate enough to realize that the sex talk they were making with their GF on the side (or that business deal) was 'in the clear' for anyone to hear, and when they began to find out, the cell phone industry trembled, and lobbied congress for common carrier protection from eavesdropping.