does anybody know a simple application with these features? 1) 'group chat' for a 'few' people - say, no more than 10 2) uses symmetric encryption (users already shared the key) 3) application uses a server for people to learn each other's addresses, but after the address exchange, the messages are sent p2p (maybe something based off IRC?)
Dnia niedziela, 9 sierpnia 2015 18:14:09 Juan pisze:
does anybody know a simple application with these features?
1) 'group chat' for a 'few' people - say, no more than 10
2) uses symmetric encryption (users already shared the key)
3) application uses a server for people to learn each other's addresses, but after the address exchange, the messages are sent p2p
Tox: https://tox.chat/ It does not support symmetric encryption (everything is encrypted with public key crypto), but if you have a pre-shared secret, you can use some other channel (say, e-mail with contents encrypted symmetrically) to share ToxIDs. Then, add people to a Groupchat and you're good to go. -- Pozdrawiam, Michał "rysiek" Woźniak Zmieniam klucz GPG :: http://rys.io/pl/147 GPG Key Transition :: http://rys.io/en/147
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 00:13:06 +0200 rysiek <rysiek@hackerspace.pl> wrote:
Dnia niedziela, 9 sierpnia 2015 18:14:09 Juan pisze:
does anybody know a simple application with these features?
1) 'group chat' for a 'few' people - say, no more than 10
2) uses symmetric encryption (users already shared the key)
3) application uses a server for people to learn each other's addresses, but after the address exchange, the messages are sent p2p
Tox: https://tox.chat/
It does not support symmetric encryption (everything is encrypted with public key crypto), but if you have a pre-shared secret, you can use some other channel (say, e-mail with contents encrypted symmetrically) to share ToxIDs. Then, add people to a Groupchat and you're good to go.
Thanks rysiek! Will check it out. (not sure if it belongs in the 'simple' category though...)
Dnia niedziela, 9 sierpnia 2015 19:43:47 Juan pisze:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 00:13:06 +0200
rysiek <rysiek@hackerspace.pl> wrote:
Dnia niedziela, 9 sierpnia 2015 18:14:09 Juan pisze:
does anybody know a simple application with these features?
1) 'group chat' for a 'few' people - say, no more than 10
2) uses symmetric encryption (users already shared the key)
3) application uses a server for people to learn each other's addresses, but after the address exchange, the messages are sent p2p
Tox: https://tox.chat/
It does not support symmetric encryption (everything is encrypted with public key crypto), but if you have a pre-shared secret, you can use some other channel (say, e-mail with contents encrypted symmetrically) to share ToxIDs. Then, add people to a Groupchat and you're good to go.
Thanks rysiek! Will check it out.
(not sure if it belongs in the 'simple' category though...)
Well, no need to set up any accounts, and it "just works" from my experience. Haven't seen a simpler IM/chat. :) But do test for yourself! -- Pozdrawiam, Michał "rysiek" Woźniak Zmieniam klucz GPG :: http://rys.io/pl/147 GPG Key Transition :: http://rys.io/en/147
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 00:56:22 +0200 rysiek <rysiek@hackerspace.pl> wrote:
It does not support symmetric encryption (everything is encrypted with public key crypto), but if you have a pre-shared secret, you can use some other channel (say, e-mail with contents encrypted symmetrically) to share ToxIDs. Then, add people to a Groupchat and you're good to go.
Thanks rysiek! Will check it out.
(not sure if it belongs in the 'simple' category though...)
Well, no need to set up any accounts, and it "just works" from my experience. Haven't seen a simpler IM/chat. :)
Yes, sorry, by simple I didn't necessarily mean 'user friendly' - what I had in mind was a simple system, simple protocol, no bloatware, etc. Well, at least tox is not written in python =) - anyway, going to compile it and see if it requires 1GB of libraries or somethng lke that =P But it does look interesing.
But do test for yourself!
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Well, no need to set up any accounts, and it "just works" from my experience. Haven't seen a simpler IM/chat. :)
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Any progress on getting the Antox FDroid repo back online after their embezzlement fiasco earlier this Summer? Mobile usage is critical to uptake so I've been awaiting a crash-free build before getting on-board with Tox. For desktop use I've been encouraging people to use meet.jit.si - not the highest security, but frankly as we all know usability and design trumps security for most people, and 'most people' are the audience for a new killer-communicator unfortunately. I do want Tox to succeed. In my opinion for that it'll need robust Android/iOS apps (plus preferably a newer, hipper platform like Ubuntu), and a web-app interface that requires no installation. Tall order! On 11/08/15 23:50, The Doctor wrote:
On 08/09/2015 03:56 PM, rysiek wrote:
Well, no need to set up any accounts, and it "just works" from my experience. Haven't seen a simpler IM/chat. :)
I've gotten some serious Skype users to jump ship for Tox. It's pretty sweet.
- -- The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415] [ZS]
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