Truth teller or Truthiness?
This is why it matters: https://wikileaks.org/wiki/John_Young https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Cryptome https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Whistleblowers/United_States https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Truth_tellers John Young is listed as a Truth Teller and a Whistleblower. He is mentioned on the same pages as Chelsea Manning, sitting in prison. In the same breath as Edward Snowden. Thomas Drake. Mark Klein. You get the picture. This is why it matters. Whether John Young deserves to be there among people who have truly risked everything to tell the truth is something only his actions will demonstrate. -Shelley
WikiLeaks self-promotional honorifics are humorously manipulative like any other prize, award, condescending media campaign. Indignant smears are beneficial: Don't trust Cryptome or John Young. At 03:26 AM 10/16/2015, you wrote:
This is why it matters:
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/John_Young
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Cryptome
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Whistleblowers/United_States
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Truth_tellers
John Young is listed as a Truth Teller and a Whistleblower. He is mentioned on the same pages as Chelsea Manning, sitting in prison. In the same breath as Edward Snowden. Thomas Drake. Mark Klein. You get the picture.
This is why it matters. Whether John Young deserves to be there among people who have truly risked everything to tell the truth is something only his actions will demonstrate.
-Shelley
On 10/16/15, John Young <jya@pipeline.com> wrote:
WikiLeaks self-promotional honorifics are humorously manipulative like any other prize, award, condescending media campaign.
Indignant smears are beneficial: Don't trust Cryptome or John Young.
A conniving reverse psychology gambit play if ever there was one... devious I tell you all, DEVIOUS!!! Now the mass flocks of masses will sheepily flock in trusting sheeple flocks to the enigmatic tome of the almighty: For-ev-er young, I wanna be, a John Crypt-Doe. Yee haw, let the flusty treeple shock!
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 06:33:26AM -0400, John Young wrote:
WikiLeaks self-promotional honorifics are humorously manipulative like any other prize, award, condescending media campaign.
Indignant smears are beneficial: Don't trust Cryptome or John Young.
AFAICT this is already generalized by the quote: "Trust no one"
On 10/16/2015 05:28 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote:
AFAICT this is already generalized by the quote: "Trust no one"
The Rapper/Gangstas say "DTA"; Don't trust anyone. It's how I manage to make it through the Viet War protest years as a teen and 'young adult' without ending up in prison for something or other... RR
On October 16, 2015 3:32:16 AM John Young <jya@pipeline.com> wrote:
WikiLeaks self-promotional honorifics are humorously manipulative like any other prize, award, condescending media campaign.
Indignant smears are beneficial: Don't trust Cryptome or John Young.
You know what, John: you're right. It doesn't matter what Mendax calls you. Some of us have placed you in that category all on our own. Recent events would not have been quite as alarming, otherwise. -S
At 03:26 AM 10/16/2015, you wrote:
This is why it matters:
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/John_Young
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Cryptome
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Whistleblowers/United_States
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Truth_tellers
John Young is listed as a Truth Teller and a Whistleblower. He is mentioned on the same pages as Chelsea Manning, sitting in prison. In the same breath as Edward Snowden. Thomas Drake. Mark Klein. You get the picture.
This is why it matters. Whether John Young deserves to be there among people who have truly risked everything to tell the truth is something only his actions will demonstrate.
-Shelley
With truths like this who needs parody? jf
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With truths like this who needs parody?
This is the Internet. Can anybody tell parody or satire from reality these days? Would anybody actually believe you if you told them it was? - -- The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415] [ZS] PGP: 0x807B17C1 / 7960 1CDC 85C9 0B63 8D9F DD89 3BD8 FF2B 807B 17C1 WWW: https://drwho.virtadpt.net/ "If you don't teach them to read, you can fool them whenever you like." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWITLvAAoJED1np1pUQ8RkZ0EP+wcMjhCP/YBWGawnzoeVEiYz LFYjG/YrkfBP0FORAHFHvn56tUSPIIBtxRxmdPAfMc62ImQcotQlSEwKGCtPjnGI kpGai3RFaCSF+dSxWUZ0jwDZen2duZxrO29qSa2aaXbGKeLThSm9LirDRn0/Forc SMsND7cKdYJj5K3CaJhyIlz9V4m5WWPsBJ02v3AwT1NydquKMnlok1j0e9woqFSX pQl1qIm6dU1Vx2sSekypgvbKTmCYF78np8QDNZLYnmCAgbD3jz6tF1vNMe25JRdw b1Mp8iTMbCWGrVU4sNOXhpcBIF3jX/bUioOEOSsOSg8wZ3w8WMp1z22+RGHWwHxX p5kHXsOBqRwlc6Wwkc9xmopUFC3jCGC8L2nMCuR17KHYzPFpmeb6IvZWmCktEiw/ SClzn+aBlbQrmXHzp+8RfZ6cqPvwGKHTH+izLEVRgyaMiBn84N/t+B60bh60qWsf DJNZ3jkM5zTuPceKODABExbBJa62cTv9QkLqOlRbHJY4zNAePomnEieVWGtRIWsJ JfRfgByseoYcLpHOiw/Ufhao0NbkRuFKlFj/aAg/h26CdKJRqvsp1/dqmP4Tci+b bwGy8VXXHAzOAPOoNbbvW5EBQTBx9KCfZKTCoJALWFD+u/gz/WndEBgqr/VBBNYn bl0kRwoucdUrTuOPkOUT =CHQz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange Assange began <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_%28computer_security%29>hacking under the name Mendax (from <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace>Horace's splendide mendax: "nobly untruthful"). That was Julian's teeny-bop spy parody proto-Hebdo. Slyer wit now with middle-aged foreign affairs pedantry. Endless war askance a pension plan.
You know what, John: you're right. It doesn't matter what Mendax calls you. Some of us have placed you in that category all on our own.
Recent events would not have been quite as alarming, otherwise.
-S
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