"We Won't Block Pirate Bay" Swedish Telecom Co
This email in plain, or rich text. As always. Last week, a Swedish Patent and Market Court of Appeal ordered The Pirate Bay and streaming portal Swefilmer to be blocked by internet service provider Bredbandsbolaget for the next three years. <https://yro.slashdot.org/story/17/02/16/2056212/swedish-court-rules-block-the-pirate-bay-for-next-3-years> The order was not well supported by other internet service providers in Sweden, as it appears they don't like the idea of becoming copyright policemen. TorrentFreak reports:
Last week ISP Bahnhof absolutely slammed the decision to block The Pirate Bay, describing the effort as signaling the "death throes" of the copyright industry. It even hinted that it may offer some kind of technical solution to customers who are prevented from accessing the site. For those familiar with Bahnhof's stance over the years, this response didn't come as a surprise. The ISP is traditionally pro-freedom and has gone out of its way to make life difficult for copyright enforcers of all kinds. However, as one of the leading telecoms companies in Sweden and neighboring Norway, ISP Telia is more moderate. Nevertheless, it too says <https://torrentfreak.com/wont-block-pirate-bay-swedish-telecoms-giant-says-170221/> it has no intention of blocking The Pirate Bay, unless it is forced to do so by law. "No, we will not block if we are not forced to do so by a court," a company press officer said this morning. Telia says that the decision last week from the Patent and Market Court affects only Bredbandsbolaget, indicating that a fresh legal process will be required to get it to respond. That eventuality appears to be understood by the rightsholders but they're keeping their options open.
https://yro.slashdot.org/story/17/02/21/2157202/we-wont-block-pirate-bay-swe...
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:
https://torrentfreak.com/wont-block-pirate-bay-swedish-telecoms-giant-says-1...
All the filesharers in the world should be devoting equal resources to developing filesharing in the darknets. Fighting on clearnet is always worthwhile. Backing those fights with the darknet trump card that is far harder to take down (both legally and technically) might serve to raise their opponents cost and friction thus forcing them to just give up, thereby freeing clearnet in the process. Whether it's on darknets or in the streets, those two locations may end up being the last stand for many changes people want to see in the world. Both places to demonstrate and live your own pirate utopias. The former used to coordinate activities in the latter, the needs of the latter driving capabilities in the former.
On 02/22/2017 10:37 AM, grarpamp wrote:
https://torrentfreak.com/wont-block-pirate-bay-swedish-telecoms-giant-says-1... All the filesharers in the world should be devoting equal resources to developing filesharing in the darknets. Fighting on clearnet is always worthwhile. Backing those fights with the darknet trump card
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote: that is far harder to take down (both legally and technically) might serve to raise their opponents cost and friction thus forcing them to just give up, thereby freeing clearnet in the process.
Whether it's on darknets or in the streets, those two locations may end up being the last stand for many changes people want to see in the world. Both places to demonstrate and live your own pirate utopias. The former used to coordinate activities in the latter, the needs of the latter driving capabilities in the former.
I absolutely agree and want to say It's good to promote the "aboveground" alliances... The fact that telecom companies are telling the courts to fork off should be publicly applauded (even IF they might be disingenuous or not-to-be-entirely-trusted). Rr
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:46:00AM -0800, Razer wrote:
On 02/22/2017 10:37 AM, grarpamp wrote:
https://torrentfreak.com/wont-block-pirate-bay-swedish-telecoms-giant-says-1... All the filesharers in the world should be devoting equal resources to developing filesharing in the darknets. Fighting on clearnet is always worthwhile. Backing those fights with the darknet trump card
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote: that is far harder to take down (both legally and technically) might serve to raise their opponents cost and friction thus forcing them to just give up, thereby freeing clearnet in the process.
Whether it's on darknets or in the streets, those two locations may end up being the last stand for many changes people want to see in the world. Both places to demonstrate and live your own pirate utopias. The former used to coordinate activities in the latter, the needs of the latter driving capabilities in the former.
I absolutely agree and want to say It's good to promote the "aboveground" alliances... The fact that telecom companies are telling the courts to fork off should be publicly applauded (even IF they might be disingenuous or not-to-be-entirely-trusted).
When in doubt, assume self interest.
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