RE: Re: US State Of New York to Ban Encrypted Screenlocked Phones and Devices
Last week, former NSA Director Michael Hayden made a very strong argument against deliberately weakening security products by adding backdoors https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/01/michael_hayden_.html Thu Jan 14 2016 18:22:44 from Patrick Lonergan <xcelq@fastmail.com> ------------------------------ When we make something un break able. like tor but even the "un breakable" anonymous can be broken. On Thu, Jan 14, 2016, at 09:10 AM, boot@ghostmail.com wrote:no no no this is all wrong.. If new york can decrypt, it means there is a backdoor we know backdoors can be used by anyone who finds them. this is bad not only for pplz but also for business, who will still trust us tech? Thu Jan 14 2016 00:24:18 from John Young <jya@pipeline.com> ------------------------------ http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?default_fld=&bn=A08093&term=2015&Summary=Y&Actions=Y&Votes=Y&Memo=Y&Text=Y "New York can and should lead the nation in protecting its citizens, and in responding to the misguided and dangerous attempts by digital device manufacturers to turn digital devices into virtual safes that, being beyond the reach of law enforcement, are havens for criminals. Revela- tions in the recent past about NSA surveillance and similar government intrusions on privacy have made people acutely aware of threats to their privacy. The goal of this bill is not to limit peoples' privacy. Peoples' privacy is protected by the warrant requirement, as it always has been. This bill would help to protect all New Yorkers." We Love New York Sent from secure GhostMail. Easy and free encrypted email, chat and cloud storage, free sign up here. Sent from secure GhostMail. Easy and free encrypted email, chat and cloud storage, free sign up here: https://www.ghostmail.com
boot@ghostmail.com wrote:
Last week, former NSA Director Michael Hayden made a very strong argument <http://www.dailydot.com/politics/michael-hayden-encryption-debate-clinton-bush/?tw=pl> /against/ deliberately weakening security products by adding backdoors
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/01/michael_hayden_.html
They need the practice... -- RR "You might want to ask an expert about that - I just fiddled around with mine until it worked..."
Dnia czwartek, 14 stycznia 2016 17:33:35 boot@ghostmail.com pisze:
Last week, former NSA Director Michael Hayden made a very strong argument against deliberately weakening security products by adding backdoors
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/01/michael_hayden_.html
As a friend pointed out, the actual quote is *very* interesting: https://bgr.com/2016/01/13/ex-nsa-chief-hayden-encryption/ “I actually think end-to-end encryption is good for America,” Hayden said. “I know encryption represents a particular challenge _for_the_FBI_. But on balance, I actually think it creates greater security for the American nation than the alternative: a backdoor.” Get it? Again: "I know encryption represents a particular challenge _for_the_FBI_." Burn noticed! -- Pozdrawiam, Michał "rysiek" Woźniak Zmieniam klucz GPG :: http://rys.io/pl/147 GPG Key Transition :: http://rys.io/en/147
rysiek wrote:
Dnia czwartek, 14 stycznia 2016 17:33:35 boot@ghostmail.com pisze:
Last week, former NSA Director Michael Hayden made a very strong argument against deliberately weakening security products by adding backdoors
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/01/michael_hayden_.html As a friend pointed out, the actual quote is *very* interesting: https://bgr.com/2016/01/13/ex-nsa-chief-hayden-encryption/
“I actually think end-to-end encryption is good for America,” Hayden said. “I know encryption represents a particular challenge _for_the_FBI_. But on balance, I actually think it creates greater security for the American nation than the alternative: a backdoor.”
Get it? Again: "I know encryption represents a particular challenge _for_the_FBI_."
Burn noticed!
I'll say it again. They need the practice. But build stronger code anyway. A twitter discussion, on the topic w/ side threads: https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/688231815463616512 In summation: https://twitter.com/PolityNews/status/688733948374028288 -- RR "You might want to ask an expert about that - I just fiddled around with mine until it worked..."
On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 11:50 +0100 rysiek <rysiek@hackerspace.pl> wrote:
Dnia czwartek, 14 stycznia 2016 17:33:35 boot@ghostmail.com pisze:
Last week, former NSA Director Michael Hayden made a very strong argument against deliberately weakening security products by adding backdoors
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/01/michael_hayden_.html
As a friend pointed out, the actual quote is *very* interesting: https://bgr.com/2016/01/13/ex-nsa-chief-hayden-encryption/
“I actually think end-to-end encryption is good for America,” Hayden said. “I know encryption represents a particular challenge _for_the_FBI_. But on balance, I actually think it creates greater security for the American nation than the alternative: a backdoor.”
Get it? Again: "I know encryption represents a particular challenge _for_the_FBI_."
What are we supposed to get, exactly? Do you think the propaganda that comes from that worthless shitbag hayden or any similar animal is true?
Burn noticed!
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