Re: "SIGINT tradecraft is very hands-on (literally!)"
We've seen the Greenwald book No Place to Hide, where are the promised gush of Snowden documents available? His publisher doesn't show a source. Surely not another marketing tease. Surely not snatched by the TLAs, tampered with, doctored, MTM'd, redacted, censored, cherry-picked, highlighted for dummies and fans, surely not handled like a disinfo spy op, heavy on narrative, suggestions of much more unreleasable, need for classified briefings and diligent vetting, that what we documents censors know we can't dare tell the public due to the public dupery by enemies of our interests. Dropboxes are honey pots, media is just that, governments are just that, opsec and comsec are just that. And do tell, what is this SIGINT forum psyoping? At 03:11 AM 5/13/2014, you wrote:
there's some new thing out,
... first shots from the peanut gallery?
please report suspicious network behavior accessing Snowden documents to the second hand exploit sale broker consortium for a reasonable referral fee!
best regards,
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 1:00 AM, John Young <jya@pipeline.com> wrote:
We've seen the Greenwald book No Place to Hide, where are the promised gush of Snowden documents available? His publisher doesn't show a source. Surely not another marketing tease.
great question; let us know if you find them!
Surely not snatched by the TLAs, tampered with, doctored, MTM'd, redacted, censored, cherry-picked, highlighted for dummies and fans, surely not handled like a disinfo spy op, heavy on narrative, suggestions of much more unreleasable, need for classified briefings and diligent vetting, that what we documents censors know we can't dare tell the public due to the public dupery by enemies of our interests.
my favorite slides from the book are the ones that are nearly all redacted except for one sentence at the end. lulz!
Dropboxes are honey pots, media is just that, governments are just that, opsec and comsec are just that.
poor pooh bear, what a confusing world to live in...
And do tell, what is this SIGINT forum psyoping?
NO SPOILERS! ---- my take on the interesting bits: regarding the phones in the fridge, this was done to muffle sound, not provide EMSEC protection. a fridge is not a faraday cage! (there has been some speculation, now definitively squashed.) regarding the scope of surveillance and exploitation, it is interesting to see how far Alexander really pushed things beyond normative for the agency. i knew he was a "spy cowboy", yet this book presents a clearer picture of how significant Alexander escalated Hayden's already aggressive agenda. regarding the intimidation and maligning of leak reporters, it was interesting to see how egregious some of the efforts to thwart and discredit reporting on this story were. last but not least, i learned that Snowden tried but failed to obtain a copy of the legend mapping CODENAMES with their corporate partners (the telecoms, not the Internet companies which they don't give two shits about naming publicly as collaborators.) i'm looking at you, level3!
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 2:58 PM, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 1:00 AM, John Young <jya@pipeline.com> wrote:
We've seen the Greenwald book No Place to Hide, where are the promised gush of Snowden documents available? His publisher doesn't show a source. Surely not another marketing tease.
great question; let us know if you find them!
http://glenngreenwald.net/pdf/NoPlaceToHide-Documents-Compressed.pdf
From: Black Fox <fox@vbfox.net> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 2:58 PM, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 1:00 AM, John Young <jya@pipeline.com> wrote:
We've seen the Greenwald book No Place to Hide, where are the promised gush of Snowden documents available? His publisher doesn't show a source. Surely not another marketing tease. great question; let us know if you find them! http://glenngreenwald.net/pdf/NoPlaceToHide-Documents-Compressed.pdf If I were the telephone company from which the records were requested, I'd note that the records were requested in "electronic" format. Then, I'd ask a programmer to write a program to write a program to generate pdf files with embedded "captcha"-type text: Images that are quite apparent to the human eye, but are very difficult for any computer to make any sense of. All the phone records would be there (in no particular order), and they'd all be very readable to humans, but... Jim Bell
On May 13, 2014 3:11 PM, "coderman" <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
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my favorite slides from the book are the ones that are nearly all redacted except for one sentence at the end. lulz!
Did Irving Washington sign?
On Tue, 13 May 2014 05:58:34 -0700 coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 1:00 AM, John Young <jya@pipeline.com> wrote:
And do tell, what is this SIGINT forum psyoping?
NO SPOILERS!
I want to know, too. And it's not a spoiler, it's the main dish.
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