For a good summary of "positives regardless of outcome", trust the good folks at unz.com - summary points (without links) pasted here: Win or Lose, It Was a Good Election Gregory Hood • November 4, 2020 • 1,900 Words https://www.unz.com/ghood/win-or-lose-it-was-a-good-election/ …First, there was no “blue wave.” The polls were wrong, and media outlets look foolish. President Donald Trump did not lose Florida or Texas. …Second, Big Tech openly supported the Democrats. Twitter is censoring the president’s tweets in the name of “election integrity” and conservatives are furious. …Third, President Trump won’t leave the White House in disgrace. He wasn’t repudiated by the nation. He would have suffered a narrow, controversial defeat. If many Republicans think the results weren’t fair, he’ll be a martyr. …Fourth, “Trumpism,” essentially anti-elite national populism, isn’t going away. …Senators Tom Cotton (who easily won re-election last night) and Josh Hawley will emerge as frontrunners for the Republican nomination in 2024. That’s assuming America’s most influential populist, Tucker Carlson, doesn’t run. …Fifth, Donald Trump personally isn’t going away. He may even do what he was reportedly planning if he lost in 2016 and start “Trump TV,” …Sixth, the Biden/Harris Administration will be weak. …Seventh, this was the worst possible outcome for “progressives” and democratic socialists. …Eighth, we could see more action at the state level. While secession from the Union is unlikely, secession from existing states is possible. …Ninth, the reason President Trump is in this position is because he didn’t do enough for white working-class voters. President Trump gained support with nearly every group except white men. Analysts, especially white advocates and nationalists, must hammer this crucial point again and again in the coming days. President Trump offered a Platinum Plan to blacks, an American Dream Plan to Hispanics, and empty rhetoric to whites. An ambitious Republican who can speak to such voters and actually offer them something (someone like Tucker Carlson) could win them back. This would not mean handouts for whites. It would mean fighting anti-white discrimination (“affirmative action”) and critical race theory in government, border security, and more economic populism. This would attract white voters without being “racist.” Don’t forget: Yesterday, voters in California kept the ban on affirmative action. …Tenth, you could argue that this election has stripped the system of legitimacy. Neither Republicans nor Democrats are satisfied. White advocates want change what lies outside what is politically possible now. Therefore, anything that undercuts system legitimacy is good for us. It opens new opportunities, and we should welcome a crisis of confidence, especially because our opponents in journalism, academia, and corporate America are clearly propping the system up. President Trump may still win this election. If he does, many of the benefits of a Democratic victory would disappear. However, the most important benefit would not. Our opponents are forcing white Americans either to defend their own interests or submit. Our opponents have a vast system of media, financial, cultural, and political control, and it is clearer than ever that they use this system against us. What President Trump represents — defiance of the ruling class — has always been more important than what he does. … For now, be of good cheer. Be white-pilled. Throw yourself into the struggle. History has restarted, and our ideas are leading the way. And Kurt Schlichter mocks the winners and losers in classic style: The Other Winners and Losers https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2020/11/05/the-other-winners-... On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 10:22:25PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Detroit:
Insane video from the TCF Center in downtown Detroit https://notthebee.com/article/insane-video-from-the-tcf-center-in-downtown-d...
where the ballons are being counted and all Republican "integrity/ vote count watchers", whenever they leave for the bathroom, are not allowed back in afterwards.
Such behaviour by the DemonRats is strongly indicative of fraudulent behaviour.
When such flagrant anti-integrity actions occur, how can this be remotely accordant with constitutional principles?
Is such action(s) sufficient grounds to send in armed escorts of some sort, to ensure the Republican vote count watchers are able to watch the vote counting?
At what point are each of the armed branches of the federal and states, with authority to "ensure election integrity" in the USA?
Good luck and pray,
On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 10:06:03PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
With these sorts of vote corruptions:
https://notthebee.com/article/no-funny-business-here-georgia-republican-chai... Allegedly, the officials in Fulton County told observers they were shutting down for the night, sent them home, and then "continued to count the ballots in secret." This is a major allegation! If this is true the legitimacy of these numbers has to be called into question. Furthermore, the observers in Fulton county have now been moved further away from where the tabulation is taking place and forklifts have been placed between the two locations to obscure the view of the observers.
there is an argument to be made for bringing in either the police, marshalls, national guard etc, to ensure a modicum of integrity in the process.
On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 09:38:46PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
If vote counting malfeasance can be "proven" to SCOTUS/constitutional standards, then perhaps a full or partial re-election could be ordered by the Supreme Court?
If Trump manages to hold onto power through this turmoil, certainly a rigorous plan for "integrifying" the US vote system should happen - perhaps to be backed by a referendum of the people.
On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 09:16:03PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Very disappointing of course.
https://notthebee.com/article/here-are-mi-and-wi-tallies-last-night-vs-this-...
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/detroit-ballot-counters-board-windows-bl...
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-surprise-ballot-dumps-behind-lead-...
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/where-vote-stands-each-key-undecided-sta...
Except that some ground for unconstitutionality can be fairly raised (how can "failure to allow vote counting monitors" (and boarding up the windows) be remotely constitutional?), then it appears that the USA, and therefore much of the west, is about to be fed a large dose of socialism (i.e. neo-communism).
This is quite unfortunate, but on the other hand should speed up the US dollar collapse.
Yay for the end of the empire, not so yay for the good people of North America.
This is the low IQ individuals getting their way, so clueless that they have no idea what's coming.
Biden: "I'm so sick of smart people."
AOC: "Having to work again? We are NOT going back to that!"
The outcome is still uncertain, but a very disappointing result in any case...
Seems many folks simply won't learn without hardship.
On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 03:38:18AM +0000, jim bell wrote:
Well, it looks like I spoke too soon! However, the 'consolation prize' is that it is so obvious that a 'coup' is attempted that I am satisfied that a segment of the public will be outraged. The people at the FBI and DOJ who deliberately failed to properly investigate Biden's fraud, and failed to publicize it, can be investigated by hearings in the Senate.
Jim Bell On Tuesday, November 3, 2020, 11:02:35 PM PST, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
Fortunately, "the coup" was stopped. But it wasn't the coup some people anticipated. In 2016, the leadership of the FBI attempted a coup, by the trick of refusing to prosecute Hitlery Clinton for violations of the Espionage Act. Comey knew that if Hitlery had been indicted, she definitely would have lost. He hoped that by not indicting Hitlery, she might win. He chose the only path available to him that might let her win. Yet, she didn't win, anyway. That's why I called that an "attempted coup". In December 2019, the FBI was given a computer laptop which contained Hunter Biden's hard drive information. The public only learned of this information in late September 2020, which seemed to be too late to expose what Joe and Hunter Biden had been doing, playing footsie with Ukraine and China. So by concealing this information, once again the FBI tried to stage a coup, hoping that the public would only learn, too late, how this crook had been foisted on them. I can only assume that the public smelled a rat, and decided that they didn't dare give control of the Federal government to Joe Biden for four years. Not incidentally, on Election Day, Joe Biden confused the names of his two granddaughters, and introduced one of them as his dead son, Beau Biden. And this guy wanted us to give his finger authority over the nuclear button! What unmitigated gall! I'm proud to have voted...for Jo Jorgensen, the Libertarian candidate. (I live in Washington state, which as I write this Yahoo/AP said went 61% for Biden.) No, Jo didn't win, but the public didn't lose nearly as badly as it could have. Coup averted. Jim Bell