On 1/12/21, coderman <coderman@protonmail.com> wrote:
treason: "the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance."
Just who is claiming that people owe any state any allegiance whatsoever... that casting off weight of the violent non freedom that states impose is somehow a crime... but governments themselves.
traitor: "... 2 : a person who betrays his or her country : a person who commits treason."
Just who is claiming that any peoples today have actually freely chosen a "country" of their own design and or voluntary acceptance today... but governments themselves. You do not have freedom (you are a slave, literally laboring at gunpoint unto govt and its chosen cronies). Without freedom you cannot freely voluntarily choose neither allegiance nor "country". When governments forbid, at gunpoint, the assemblage of free peoples into regions of their own unto organization of their own... you are not free and have no "country" to "betray". Just because you dropped from vagina onto some dirt, or are [actually not] free to travel across "borders" from one same global scheme to another, none of which are today remotely voluntary or different, does not yield allegiance nor "country". Any claims to otherwise come from those trying to enslave you further under their tricky schemes.
all the talk of 1776 is pretty clear overthrowing a democratic government with force.
"Democratic" offers no such lofty protection when the time and due call of human freedom comes knocking. And whatever dates in history are harkened forth into whatever rhetoric therein, can surely be no indictment at that point.
this was forgivable when the authority was a king back in 1776
Democracy is nothing more than a distributed King, a mere technological advancement the Kings made to save their ass and continue power over freedom. When peoples see through the shell game violence and failure of Democracy, democracies get overthrown same as any King... count up the failed democracies all throughout history. The false "authority" in "democracy" is no more forgivable than that of any King. People need to wake up and see that their "King" has no clothes. And try adopting something completely different. Else they are doomed to repeat history.
mob violence against an elected administration is treason against democracy and the republic. it's just that simple.
Simple, only for simpletons who think "democracy" is some great gift to humanity, it isn't. In fact, all the murder of war in history, hundreds millions of people dead, was done by some "elections" group assentions of some "leaders" who then *initiated* the wars.
it will be interesting to look back a year from now and see how many of these idiots are in prison for their violent insurrection.
Unlike the Leftists all throughout 2020, who were not to any equal degree hunted down and prosecuted for their mass abject violence burning arson destruction looting and death (in fact they were both supported and bailed out by Harris and the Left) wrought upon all of civilians, business, and government,
$2B in damage...
Yet on Jan 6 2021, nothing was torched nor hardly destroyed, naught but token were stolen from government who actually stole their amount from people at gunpoint first, and no one was directly grossly murdered, except for Ashli Babbitt by a cop. But the hypocrite Left did not rise in violence or defund that by cop deal, or impeach their own inciting congress members, censor and erase their people and businesses from the internet, did they, nor did the Right to them.
and yes, mr. rat : AP is decentralized tyranny.
Democracy did decentralized tyranny first, quite similar to AP... from voting thus declaring opponents, to funding winning parties which engage in oppression, aggression, murder, war, etc, to giving rewards for dirty deeds, political seers predictors actors of elections, etc.
violence is a cheat and shortcut to social order
When stressors upon freedom, violent force upon labors, are removed, peace is generally the natural state of being, only becoming unpeaceful when you put Kings in place, start swearing foolish allegiant sheeple praises to them, downhill slide.
it will be interesting
To see some US states secede, yes indeed, certainly no new thing in the world. Try it. Even recommended for many around world to try, more chances at freedom rebooted, more unique variations. At least the Free State Project recognized that people need land and ideas of their own to try something new, even anything closer to educating and living freedom and leaving other people the fuck alone, instead of apparrent global fetish and push to track, control, tax, permission, rank, censor, homogenize away, and slave all 8B people even more. The King has never willingly lessened himself to grant more freedom. Freedom seeking can therein be no offense. Most Kings in history so passing before their natural time.