‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Monday, October 19, 2020 6:34 AM, <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote:
What was released was the top level document ordering and authorizing illegal activities after Bush retracted his presidential order authorizing those activities. The rest is just boring detail, particular examples of those activities.
On 2020-10-20 01:11, coderman wrote:
James, what we consider "illegal" is not in the eyes of those in power.
If the president signs an executive order rendering it illegal, it is illegal in the eyes of those officially in power, bringing existing law and constitutional precedent making it illegal in play. Of course, as has become apparent during the Trump presidency, official power is less than it seems. Who actually has power is unclear and disputed, but that is itself a situation of rampant illegality. If power is not official, it is crime and treason. Of which we have been seeing a great deal during the Trump presidency. If power is unclear and disputed, the issue is going to be resolved by violence, quite possibly violence that may well begin very shortly after November the third, as people disagree on who gets to count the votes.