n Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 8:03 AM grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:

The GoldBug Messenger fraud was already well documented
on this and many other lists... they never defended the charges
laid against them, just kept dodging and shilling their warez.

I haven't found evidence of this in what my isp shows me. https://searx.be/search?q=site:cpunks.org+goldbug doesn't appear to display what you describe at all, to me, maybe you see something different.

> https://sf.net/projects/goldbug/files/bigseven-crypto-audit.pdf

Anyone can write, post, print, and sell a bogus "audit".

Good luck finding these so called "auditors" too...

"David Adams (Tokyo)"
"Ann-Kathrin Maier (Munich)"

So I'm inferring that goldbug is real, and Adams and Maier are further endangered, now, and you were possibly hoping to protect them, not sure.

Anyway the big fakes are crummy. I can't tell what the story around an0n and ciphr are, but anything we can do to protect users is helpful, in my opinion. It's obviously not always public good or justice guiding public discourse around cryptography, or guiding law enforcement. It's clear intense pressures develop.

I'm not expecting you to diss something like goldbug without backing it up incredibly well. We appreciate your other privacy advocacy on this somewhat-stale list.