On 10/25/15, Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
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On 10/25/2015 12:21 PM, Razer wrote:
On 10/25/2015 08:58 AM, Steve Kinney wrote:
On 10/25/2015 11:32 AM, Razer wrote:
There were no "Purges" in Vietnam.
IIRC there were, though of course not on a scale to rival Pol Pot & Co. However, that's beside the point: I was talking about Amerikan politics, not Asian history.
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I'm SURE the citizens of Vietnam took good care of their traitors... To the best of my knowledge there were never any government organized purges. What angry citizens might have done to Special Forces installed "Provincial Governments" and errant unfortunate ARVN soldiers does NOT qualify as a purge. What Amerika did to it's labor unionists in the early 1900s does though. America's politics DEPEND on the belief in "Righteous wars" and I'm here to say The US has NEVER fought one. It's a myth.
War is public murder for private profit. I don't know of any counter-examples. Again we are up against a collective psychosis, normalized by a long history of public acceptance and elaborate rationalizations. Sometimes one sees Bad Guys vs. Worse Guys, but whenever it's Guys vs. Guys the best that can be accomplished is some amount of damage control. Everyone who takes up arms to settle the disputes of their rulers and de facto owners is a traitor to the human race as a whole.
The challenge is how to spread such a meme effectively, powerfully. Then perhaps there'd be a hope that people would take up arms against their owners, or at least in defence of their families (I've posted the post Hurricane Katrina illegal weapons confiscations by federal military - no one, NO ONE failed to give up their arms (although TBH I cannot of course speak to those who denied they had any guns in their respective home - would love to see some true stories of humans with spines, balls and ovaries!)) And since Credit River Decision, no judge will take up a ruling against the banks. And since the machine gun slaughter of the early unionists, as you hint at above, all unions have fallen to infiltration/ corruption in relatively short order. FUCK it's a fucked up world! Juan, PLEASE tell me there's a better one somewhere, somehow?
The "fog of war" has another name, propaganda, and all sides of every armed conflict write press releases to establish that their only motive is "necessary self defence," or the currently popular "responsibility to protect others." The other side of every armed conflict always started it, and the regular folks on the other side of that border deserve whatever happens to them because they failed to stop it.
Too much factual information about war results in large numbers of people banding together to have a go at kicking the war machine to pieces. So never mind that "ain't gonna study war no more" crap; study the fuck out of war and encourage others to do likewise.
ACK! Fuck the fucken war cause that fucken fucker's a fucking fucked up death fest of evil. Z