On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 08:26:25PM -0300, Juan wrote:
On Sun, 12 Aug 2018 07:03:09 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
DEVIL'S ADVOCATE - Dr.Jordan Peterson VS Skyler Turden! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfv_wlWMZnw
there you have peterson saying that NSA 'social media' should be treated as 'public utilities' AND at the same time denying that he wants the governemnt to control free speech. peterson is truly retarded.
It was a trap question by Crowder, and when asked a second time Peterson highlighted that it was actually a trap question and said something like "look, you can make such a case, but that's not what I'm actually saying", and he first highlighted how such a case could be made by asking Crowder 'Alex Jones has been banned from YouTube, and he used telephones, so should AT&T be allowed to ban Jones from using telephones' which Crowder seemed stumped to answer, and so Peterson filled in the obvious 'we can probably agree that Alex Jones should not be allowed to be barred from using telephones, and so in a similar way, a case could be made to regulate YouTube as a telecommunications provider, although that's not what I'm saying...' OK, now we've got the context (and thankfully the clarification), feel free to have a proper shot at destroying Peterson's position here - point is, Crowder backed down, implicitly agreeing that he'd tried to trap Peterson into a position that Peterson does not hold. Peterson said -multiple- times in that video that the corporations can do what they want, and that when they choose to censor they are making a really bad decision which one way or another they will pay for - quite possibly by their collapse over a 10 year period. THAT's what Peterson said, multiple times!
and the guy who plays the part of left wing fascist answers that NSA 'social media' should be left to the 'free market' (so he's a capitalist like peterson!) and the 'free market' (twitterNSA, jewtubeNSA etc) banned alex jones so all is good. In other words peterson is retarded and gets fully pwned.
It could have been better, but I don't share your conclusion - Crowder did make the best attempt yet to take Peterson down a notch, that I would agree with, but Peterson held his own remarkably well for a "university professor".
29:49 oh and censorship can go wrong...look at CHINA! As always, foreign subhumans fail to achieve the moral supremacy of western jew-kristians...
By my take on listening to that part of it (yesterday) Peterson was responding to Crowder by highlighting that 'perhaps you might want to consider that censorship is not a good thing - here's a bone that your thick head might comprehend, “censorship in China”'. I love a good joust as much as the next guy, but it's not so useful when what is said is taken out of context...