On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 10:20:11AM -0700, Steven Schear wrote:
As I mentioned, cosmology is another field whose theories also can never be conclusively proven and despite massive consensus will remain just that: only opinion.
Well I for one am very s[ck]eptical about this particular assertion - the Talls might just drop in and make a -public- appearance, and provide a lot of data about neighbouring galaxies. I'm sure we'll --never-- travel faster than the speed of sound ..
Here Hawking et al fume at those opposing one of their cherished theories and the unmitigated gaul to play the Scientific Method "card".
https://www.sciencealert.com/stephen-hawking-and-32-top-physicists-just-sign...
Warrant Canary creator
On May 13, 2017 7:46 AM, "Steven Schear" <schear.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael Crichton's famous lecture drops the mike on consensus vs. science and should be required reading for anyone with an open mind on this topic.
http://www.burtonsys.com/climate/Aliens_Cause_Global_Warming _by_Michael_Crichton.html
Warrant Canary creator
On May 13, 2017 4:51 AM, "Zenaan Harkness" <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 08:27:43PM +1000, James A. Donald wrote:
If you have read the climategate files, you will know that the new scientific method, the method of official science, is to determine the truth by consensus, then look for evidence to support that official truth, while ignoring or suppressing any contrary evidence, and if evidence cannot be found to support official truth, to just make the evidence up.
This last bit "make the evidence up" is done with "scientific" models - often retrospective data curve fitting - and this is the problem they (govt paid "Scientist"s) have at the moment, their nice hockey stick curves (from the 1980s?) were modelled perfectly for the data, to fit the desired "scientific" outcome, and now the new data doesn't fit the desired hockey stick outcome, so ridiculous "scientific" explanations are trotted out, from "a global pause in global warming" to "important data points not previously included in the model" and other hogwash pseudo-"science" designed to regenerate the hockey stick.
It's political bullshit, not science. They know it. We know. Anyone self respecting adherent to the actual scientific method knows it. But a lot of propaganda to the contrary of the scientific methods is identifying religious nuts to the discerning, which from one view is a public service - just not worth anywhere near the "public" theft-money spent on such "science" propaganda.