> > > > > > > > > > > > > we watched part of start of OA again with nonconsenting person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's charged energy around similarities and differences between > > > > > > > > > > > > > OA's experience, our experience, and possibly other experiences we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > been exposed to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > very strong energy around miscasting of these in ways that can create > > > > > > > > > > > > > power dynamics inside me or alter my experience of identity > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > part of us is trying to figure out how to better traffick people based > > > > > > > > > > > > on the information :/ > > > > > > > > > > > > part of us is trying to figure out how to better traffick people based > > > > > > > > > > > > on the information :/ > > > > > > > > > > > > part of us is trying to figure out how to better traffick people based > > > > > > > > > > > > on the information :/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes to more effectively destroy people's lives, enslave them > > > > > > > > > > > massively, and amplify and spread any such existing operations. this > > > > > > > > > > > is something called an "introject", an alter that behaves like a > > > > > > > > > > > perpatrator. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things are quite strong here so it's hard to navigate to answer > > > > > > > > > > question requests. it basically lands in poor areas :\ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but i think there's agreement that making a movie is a great thing, > > > > > > > > > very inspiring and empowering. really tells the right story, > > > > > > > > > demonstrating an ability to do that at all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's true that something clearly nonfictional would be more empowering. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changeness > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 difference focused > > > > > > karl gave up; the OA maybe transcended giving up and is in a different > > > > > > space in the first episode, which more reminds karl of over a decade > > > > > > ago > > > > > > > > > > similar to where experimentee says forced to choose to die > > > > > > > > Maybe in summary we'd like to repeatedly express that the OA needed to > > > > be brought to a relational therapist specializing in dissociative > > > > identity disorder with successful experience treating ritual abuse. > > > > > > > > There are only a handful of professionals whose job it is to both > > > > understand what the OA is experiencing and has experienced and help > > > > her recover, and that is one of them. > > > > > > > > But pleasantly the show does continue to show empathic relation, which > > > > is rare and hard and takes precise avenues because of traumatically > > > > trained silence. > > > > > > this is not karl's only mistake by far. > > > here it sounds like karl means "any communication at all" by "empathic > > > relation" whereas "empathic relation" in normal communities means > > > "shared understanding" > > > maybe the show is supposed to build that later > > > > oops about larger/other thing, not immediately quoted thing > > expressed diverse pensation around trafficking vulnerable people like > escapees more
Maybe in summary we'd like to repeatedly express that the OA needed to be brought to a relational therapist specializing in dissociative identity disorder with successful experience treating ritual abuse.
I'm not quite sure what I'm experiencing here. Concepts: - I think I originally saw the OA prior to my exposure to extreme trauma.
remainig concepts might not be helpful unsure, hear could be unexpected integration reducing something valued or something
- I think I might have heard that the OA could be related to a true story, I don't really know. - There are a _lot_ of true stories, they are _very_ intense and novel and most have _not_ been made into movies - My mcboss stories are _not_ true - I do have a true story that is _different_ from the mcboss stories - A lot of people have written books/autobiographies although most of these are the less extreme things that are easier to think clearly about and stimulate less serious danger to publish about
sorries T_T wishing well
ok to try to bring back from dead, i think you were saying that we need to do anything we can to let these tortured-to-death stories live?
and ... you can tell there's something here, around me and the mcboss stories and the OA and my brief shoulder-rubbing with survivors, researchers, and therapists ... where this could happen more or better. maybe something almost obvious that hasn't been said yet.
sorry! not me and the mcboss stories. me and the two stories that are encrypted into the mcboss storie--
you mean about my story, where i am a wealthy industrialist who took over the world with slavery for personal glory :D ... uhh oops