On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 01:50:50 -0400 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 3:14 AM, juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
Roger Ver (BU) vs Tone Vays (SegWit) - Bitcoin Scaling Debate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdyIJ-BUPaU
Veys: "Expert coders yadda yadda" Ver: "Good ideas dont require force and good ideas dont require censorship. (And more fine quotes.)"
Yes. And even funnier, the technical arguments coming from the 'expert coders' aren't too impressive. For instance, they seem to be claiming that even small increments in block size would hopelessly cripple bitcoin's 'security'. Then there's the "bitcoin is digital gold" theory. Bitcoin's supply is fixed like gold supply is. That part of the theory makes a lot of economic sense. But then it turns out that gold doesn't impose any low limit on the amount of *transactions* you can do with it. OOPS. So bitcoin isn't digital 'gold' after all eh? Another very funny thing is people claiming satoshi wasn't a 'good coder' by which they mean that his programming style wasn't 'proffesional'. But regardless of programming style he *desgined* the whole system. And the problems at hand are not 'coding' proglems but 'protocol design' problems.
Anyone can code, not everyone has philosophy or puts it into code.
Yep. That's a pretty good summary.
So Blockstream gets crushed in open debate. Simple larger blocks buy the time needed to come together under good ideas
Yes. It seems to me that trying small increments in size would be basic engineering practice and not horribly risky. But in reality the (non)argument against changing block size is based on conservative 'philosophy', it's not really technical... Or perhaps even simpler, it is a conspiracy to force developement/adoption of second layer solutions. Now, playing devil's advocate if the so called LN or something like that actually work as a fast, p2p network, then it wouldn't be too bad and the people who are currently manipulating block size would have a point, regardless of the underhanded means they are using. to take on Visa, Fiat, and Governance.
Or not. Or fork it. All valid.
Another long debate... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JarEszFY1WY
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And very short ones... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci8IB-Lpe-c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk2Umn4FlyA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grFgUx4bPlo