Thanks for link, I rather liked it =) I always liked what Eco I've read (only Foucault's Pendulum, and the Name of the Rose...) John On November 23, 2016 11:55:00 PM EST, Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
I refer to Umberto Eco as the (snigger) "Authority"
It doesn't take much to understand fascism. 9 pages and 14 ways of looking at a Blackshirt is plenty.
http://www.pegc.us/archive/Articles/eco_ur-fascism.pdf
a more reasonable right-wing definition of fascism is one offered by
guy who invented it, Benito Mussolini (actually mostly by his court philosopher Giovanni Gentile). Here's just one important part (more here: http://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/mussolini-fascism.asp):
For Fascism, the growth of empire, that is to say the expansion of
nation, is an essential manifestation of vitality, and its opposite a sign of decadence. Peoples which are rising, or rising again after a
decadence, are always imperialist; and renunciation is a sign of decay and of death. Fascism is the doctrine best adapted to represent the tendencies and the aspirations of a people, like the people of Italy, who are rising again after many centuries of abasement and foreign servitude. But empire demands discipline, the coordination of all forces and a deeply felt sense of duty and sacrifice: this fact explains many aspects of the
working of the regime, the character of many forces in the State, and the necessarily severe measures which must be taken against those who would oppose this spontaneous and inevitable movement of Italy in the twentieth century, and would oppose it by recalling the outworn ideology of
nineteenth century - repudiated wheresoever there has been the courage to undertake great experiments of social and political transformation; for never before has the nation stood more in need of authority, of
and order. If every age has its own characteristic doctrine, there are a thousand signs which point to Fascism as the characteristic doctrine of our time. For if a doctrine must be a living thing, this is proved by
that Fascism has created a living faith; and that this faith is very powerful in the minds of men is demonstrated by those who have suffered and died for it.
notice all that emphasis on "decadence," on the expansion of Empire, on the "strength" of "the nation," on militarism? it's pretty hard to make
z9wahqvh: the the period of practical the direction the fact that
work with the creation of social security and welfare programs (aka The New Deal), or FDR's patent lack of interest in the kind of militaristic nationalism that -- oh, he eventually went to war against, but only after being dragged kicking and screaming, mostly through the US being attacked directly.
but what did Mussolini know about fascism (despite being the leader of the actual movement that gave us the word)?
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:26 PM, z9wahqvh <z9wahqvh@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 2:37 PM, juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder what an 'updated' new deal is considering that the Original New Deal was chemically pure fascism...
in which Juan-who-swears-he's-not-an-authoritarian-right-winger demonstrates that he gets his analysis of fundamental political
categories
from authoritarian right wingers (the only people--especially Hayek himself and National Review editor Jonah Goldberg--who describe the New Deal as having anything whatsoever to do with fascism, which it did not).
-- RR "You might want to ask an expert about that - I just fiddled around with mine until it worked..."
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