On 07/12/2017 09:27 PM, juan wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:21:33 -0700 Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:
On 07/12/2017 03:18 PM, juan wrote:
That may be one of the meanings, but it seems kinda obvious that overall, 'liberal' comes from 'liberty'.
Liberty, as the US "Founders" understood it, meant the liberty to own property, including humans.
Just sayin'.
the founding fuckers knew pretty well what liberty meant, becuase they knew what SLAVERY meant. It's kinda obvious that anybody who has the concept of slavery also 'understands' freedom.
So the founding fuckers babbled about liberty (which they understood perfectly well) while being slave owning psychos.
They just created an orwellian tyranny 200 years before orwell. Got to give them credit for that.
Well yeah... "Liberty" meant rich people thumbing their noses at the Crown that made them rich by setting them up in business with land grants, slaves, legal institutions and some amount of military protection. For the peasant class, "Liberty" was a false promise of equal rights before the law and the belief that everybody would get rich quick once the Crown stopped taxing the Colonies. Today, "Liberty" can have as many meanings as their are market segments under the Right Wing umbrella, but all these meaning have one thing in common: Direct rule by our billionaires.