---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg@tristatelogic.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 18:15:14 -0700 Subject: [Discuss-gnuradio] IMSI Catcher Catcher? To: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org [[ Up front confession: I know essentially nothing about radio. ]] Just a short while ago, I saw a Vice News video titled "State of Surveillance" in which Snowden brought up the fact that some journalists had found and outted some stingrays (IMSI Catchers) which had, apparently, been operating in some very sensitive areas of Oslo, Norway, for an unknown amount of time, managed by unknown people, for unknown purposes. That was the first that I personally had ever heard about that, so I googled it and found a lot of information about it online. I started to wonder about the fact that these Norwegian journalists were able to pull together the hardware and software necessary to detect the various anomalies that indicated the presence of these multiple stingrays in the Oslo city center. I googled some more and found the following blog article, written by Bruce Schneier, in which he notes that these days, pretty much anybody could easily build their own stingray, presumably out of an off-the- shelf computer and a reasonably cheap ($330 USD) little box called a "HackRF": https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/04/the_further_dem_1.html So, after that I was thinking that perhaps someone already has! Or better yet, perhaps someone has already written the code necessary to turn, for example, an ordinary laptop plus a HackRF box into a portable device that could *detect* the presence of stingrays, i.e. an "IMS-Catcher Catcher". For me at least it would be really a lot of fun to have one of those, i.e. an IMS-Catcher Catcher (stingray detector). I am not far from the State Capitol in California, and I, for one, would love nothing better than to wardrive down around the Capitol (and associated state government buildings), checking to see if there are any active stingrays operating in the area. (In the Oslo incidents, it was reported that several of the stringrays seemed to be strategically placed near major government building, including the Prime Minister's residence.) Of course, if I found any, I would immediately try to share that info with the few journos I know... and everybody else who I could get to pay attention. So, anyway, finally, my quuestion: Do any of you folks here know if anybody has created any publically available software (copyleft or otherwise) that would allow, e.g. a HackRF or any other inexpensive SDR to be turned into a stingray detector? If so, I'd love to receive a link to that. I have a laptop and $330 USB burning a hole in my pocket. Regards, rfg P.S. I did do some googling for what I'm asking for (before posting here) but the closest thing I found way an academic paper from Q3 2014 that seemed to say that the software these guys developed wasn't even up to what could be called "Beta quality": https://www.sba-research.org/wp-content/uploads/publications/DabrowskiEtAl-I... They made their code freely available, but it appears that it has been stagnant and languishing since they did their paper in Q3 2014. :-( https://sourceforge.net/projects/icc/ P.P.S. In an ideal world, I'd like to see great massive hoards of people running around city centers all over the world... wardriving for a new generation... triangulating the exact locations of any stingrays they find, and then making all that info public someplace, e.g. on some single web site. I mean nobody knows where these things are *or* who might be operating them! (Anybody can buy one now for only $1800 USD off of alibaba.com... or probably build one themselves for much less with a laptop and a HackRF.) P.P.P.S. It really is too bad that the journalists who broke the Oslo stingrays story didn't do the sensible thing and follow-up properly on their initial finding, i.e. by *triangulating* until they had the exact locations of the various stingrays they found. If they had done that, then it might have been a LOT harder for the Powers That Be to just dismiss and deny their published findings, as they did, thus effectively sweeping the whole thing under the rug as far as the public was concerned. _______________________________________________ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio