-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 02/08/2016 09:15 PM, shakeitoff@ghostmail.com wrote:
Hi Ted,
Yes, I agree with you.
As well you might: It appears that Ted has made six posts to the CPunks list since June of last year. Each consisted of complaints about the ideological impurity a.k.a. political incorrectness of the CPunks list and those who post to it. Ted and "shakeitoff@ghostmail.com" have a lot in common, including their vocabulary, grammatical construction, New Left ideology and a hostile attitude toward what passes for "native culture" on the CPunks list. A few posts from years earlier suggest that Ted probably exists somewhere in meatspace, whereas shakeitoff@ghostmail.com appears to exist only as a pseudonym created for a single purpose.
Supposedly, this list was for anarchists who wanted to advance strong cryptography and individual liberty.
However, it seems like the large majority of postings here are unfortunately not about cryptography, nor anarchy. Agreed about the white fascism.
Our morally superior critic shakeitoff@ghostmail.com appeared to come here to help us eliminate degrading, insulting and hurtful language on the CPunks list by installing a censorship regime. But now I see a New Left ideologue providing us with yet another demonstration that "Those who make and enforce the law are above the law." Authoritarian much lately, shakeitoff@ghostmail.com? No matter: The CPunks list will not censor you.
The ideal would be idea to have more code, more crypto.
Please cite examples of your contributions to the creation, vetting, promotion, defense of, or end user tech support for "more code, more crypto."
However, as you said, it might be a lost cause. Which is quite sad, considering what it originally represented. But thanks for writing this nonetheless :)
It would make sense to abandon PC trolling of the CPunks list as a lost cause. Most of the participants in the CPunks list self identify as Anarchist or Libertarian, both of which indicate high sales resistance to New Left ideology. You will not beat a crowd that includes veterans of USENET in open battle. Uncommitted third parties do not know or care that the CPunks list exists, so what potentially receptive audience do you address?
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Ted Smith <tedks@riseup.net <mailto:tedks@riseup.net>> wrote:
I'd appreciate any suggestions, onlist or offline, from anyone who thinks similarly of the ideological drift of this list from generally anti-authoritarian to crypto-white nationalism.
Racist much lately, Ted? No matter: The CPunks list will not censor you. Several people on the list have taken the issues raised by shakeitoff@ghostmailseriously enough to discuss them rationally. "Counterfeit coins exist because there was, first, real gold." One should always assume good faith on the part of correspondents, until persuasive evidence indicates otherwise. But apparently shakeitoff@ghostmail.com and Ted want more: Committed ideological converts who will trash the CPunks list, an ongoing and rather successful experiment in free speech, by installing a shiny new censorship regime. If "they" can't get their way, at least they can stamp their little feet and call people names. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWue1FAAoJEDZ0Gg87KR0LQCwP/0Jx/frqR6NRwNr5Xw75VRSY WTc1305NGV37NJtIOSjiNjh/Av0RmAJkC8mUs0+WRR06H2mm+g119OhXUmwPNxrv DIWu9fSIrzwPWM73z40rQWuUTweHfg4Zn+8kcqabNQI+6bcrblgUjBmxSbZ8aGeS gTFSmQ5kKcWPm96ZhgqnODkmYUEyKRkDYRKTo2WjcMId8C0l5tavuolQlHedLMEP uWJtUODOaPQYu9InfQ8QqcU4ORp0S4pzLKm6k7S8TNUC3ooa1E1l7sqB0+Z+IF4v xkhm8UNMUgyPlv6eHEb49F3k8p5lbHZX1cicJOOQw7FBNwdbMmTmFS5iHoloHG20 P0cn1UA9Zs50JPvS3/l8Ef7p9f2vtLDAubmxyMZhVdQn5HwnBnxcufiNpxhAg4TH /ak5QsTtQgiNz2my+FZ4oPsWqE82XNbq9uqybgpaxO0DtOg1YmpDrLwdBg0KtW2m F6R//DdN5H7GIpXDOZYAPLUw/JwDkut2qNsTi0c8itINqBvgt9mKf8hbW3eZ5FR3 mlRzMpAZRjDedBHIOdgfSL+zfkk+eUi00gtVrZNfamF3Uq+9STPgTS5o1VYWO8z+ XT+bYq61dvh+moQj4TePCr96OaLWY1TdG5P+f0WlLcmmf/bVEu+fvR78lAE+MSxu bN9LIS6JzmIFTbOduom1 =7JN3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----