On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 12:19:26 -0600 John Newman <jnn@synfin.org> wrote:
On Dec 18, 2018, at 7:41 PM, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
" 2) wouldn't AP be used to lynch people that the mob dislikes? Say, black people in places with a majority of trump voters. "
Before I had written and published the first part of my AP essay, I anticipated that once such a system started, it might actually be somewhat dangerous to be a "famous" person. (But I don't recall actually stating this in the essay; I need to go back and remind myself what I wrote!) At least, it would be far safer to be essentially unknown. And, other people since then have thought of the same possibility. Today, you can have an actor who is famous for playing villains. What happens in an AP-operating world, where people (including somewhat mentally-unstable people) think of this actor as being a 'bad guy'?
One partial answer might simply be: Actors who play 'bad guys' will probably have to be paid more, to compensate them for their risk! But of course, once
LOL! That your thinking has only gone this deep on this particular issue, “actors playing bad guys might be killed by the AP mob, so they will get to demand a higher salary to pay their security retinue”, doesn’t show a whole lot of deep thinking or intellectual curiosity, Jim :P. I find your stories of IC work much more interesting.
The way AP is designed, these “juries” (comprised of who?) are not a requirement, and there could always be multiple AP markets, some with or without these “juries”. Or some with wholly state-controlled “juries”.
It seems that Jim didn't fully answer the question and instead sidestepped it. If something like ethereum turns out to actually be decentralized and uncensorable then we should expect an AP system in which anybody can be targeted, not just criminals. As a side note, the idea of providers of security competing on the market was first proposed in 1849 (or earlier, so that's at least 120 years ago) by libertarians like Spooner and Molinari. Libertarians want to replace the criminal organization known as government with VOLUNTARY services for protecting life liberty and property. So under a libertarian system nobody is forced to pay protection and protection agencies are bound by libertarian law. Jim the added :
Not that it would be impossible to have a less-ethical AP organization appear, and accept 'predictions' on just about anyone, including myself. But I think the cost would be much higher.
I see no reason why the cost should always be higher. I asked what would happen if racists decided to target people they didn't like. I don't think your answer made much sense. Your example about an actor being targeted for the roles he plays seems rather absurd. Your solution for the targeted actor is almost as absurd but more importantly the solution doesn't apply to ordinary people who are targeted for no good reason. So maybe Jim you should try again? =)
What if state-actors were to put a hit on you? And anyone else who has publicly avowed for or otherwise is known to support AP? That might serve as a slight chilling concept on the whole thing.
what if jew-kristians were to put hits on drug dealers, 'pornographers', atheists and the like. The possibilities for abuse are endless...
Or maybe you’d be considered a martyr, as opposed to the victim of his own murderous system, and the people would finally rise up and, as you say, the government would fall :P.
most or possibly all AP-organizations employ 'juries' to limit the people who are ultimately targeted, it should be difficult to find an AP organization that would accept those contracts...unless that actor truly was a 'bad guy'!!!
Jim Bell