On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 21:08:09 +0300 Cari Machet <carimachet@gmail.com> wrote:
Switzerland has a degree of direct democracy ... they vote on the budget
No state system could satisfy anything i desire for too many reasons but i just want others to understand there is a long standing > 1700's > system that develops forms of direct democracy
Not all anarchists think dd is anarchy but that just means they dont understand its conceptual history
Maybe they dont understand anarchy at all really
It should be noted that not only switzerland is a nation state(...), it's the poster child for western corporatism. switzerland GDP per capita is us$ 80k, that is the second highest in the world, after luxembourg (which is nothing but the capital of the world banking mafia)
Assange has said he is a libertarian wonder if he still after all these embassy prison years thinks its viable esp now with no intertubes in prison
On Oct 24, 2016 8:51 PM, "jim bell" <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
*From:* Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> The issue I'm having reading this thread about the US Erections is this list is ostensibly Anarchist and I don't understand why it's infested almost exclusively by Libertarians. Libertarians CANNOT be Anarchist ... because they believe in government. Small, but they BELIEVE that the US political system actually works in the interest of the people, or it can be made so.
Not exactly, There are "anarchist libertarians" and "minarchist libertarians". I was one of the latter, before 1995 when I discovered/invented my AP system. Afterwards, I realized not only that having no government was possible, it was essentially inevitable.
Note: It is, strictly speaking, incorrect to say: "Libertarians CANNOT be Anarchist ...because they believe in government." Libertarians believe in a certain set of limits to people's relationships and interactions with other people. A Libertarian may believe that a small government is tolerable, and maybe still necessary; other libertarians may believe that a stable anarchy is possible. (As I now do.)
Jim Bell