On May 13, 2017, at 7:12 PM, Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 01:59:32PM -0400, John Newman wrote:
On May 13, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Steven Schear <schear.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael Crichton's famous lecture drops the mike on consensus vs. science and should be required reading for anyone with an open mind on this topic.
http://www.burtonsys.com/climate/Aliens_Cause_Global_Warming_by_Michael_Cric...
A shitty novelist points out that science has been wrong in the past,
You highlight Crichton's point perfectly - that shitty science from the past that he spoke of is not, was not, and never shall be science, it was merely "science", political social movements dressed up as "concensus science".
And here you are, once again, smack bang in the trap this has set for your weak mind - calling past "science" as science, instead of the politics it is.
And anyway, what the hell has Michael Crichton's novel writing ability got to do with the clear, succinct and slightly humorous facts he raises in his essay/talk??
Hey, you replied to one of my emails! I guess it's easier to jump on this bandwagon than try to defend any of your other countless (and disgusting) hypocritical views. Maybe we can send some death squads out to the science departments at any institution doing climate research? Especially if they're (((jewish))) - sounds right up your alley, you bad boy ;) In any case, Chrichton selectively chose a few things which, as i said, no one ever claimed was a known science. Like the drake equation. Then he further selected a bunch of stuff that has been discredited, thanks to further scientific work, over time. In effect, he showed that science, over time, works. And naturally he stayed away from all the wonderful things that have been wrought by scientific innovation, and that are in fact a CONSENSUS, once they have been accepted by the scientific community. That these consensuses can change is obvious, or he wouldn't have had so much crap science to pick from (and doctors would still be following Galen and bleeding you to get your humors in order when you went to hospital) The fact that science advances is not a legitimate attack on any particular piece of current science. If that's all you got... you got nothing. And i called him a shitty novelist because he is just that - a shitty novelist. Actually i rather enjoyed a travel memoir he wrote, but basically he's a hack. It's an opinion, you aren't obliged to share it (i doubt you have the capacity to share it - somehow i don't envision you as a big reader. maybe mein kampf before bed? ;)
that predicting the future is hard, and that some equations are basically guesses (e.g. the drake equation). Of course, everyone has known this, including Drake and the SETI people, from
Did you even read the whole thing?
The problem is that previously 'revered' rags like "Scientific American" have become the Popes of "concensus science", destroying actual scientific take downs of their cherished political dogma.
day one (although there have been remarkable advances in the ability to detect exoplanets recently, thanks mainly to the kepler space telescope). What deep insight.
It's funny how the biggest skeptics on climate science tend to either be funded by the petroleum (and related) industry (these are the few that publish studies) OR have no real scientific background and are generally right-wing/conservatives or massively conspiracy-inclined.
Since you have no basis in science, of course we ought to have predicted your typical decent into ad-hominen.
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On May 13, 2017 4:51 AM, "Zenaan Harkness" <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 08:27:43PM +1000, James A. Donald wrote: If you have read the climategate files, you will know that the new scientific method, the method of official science, is to determine the truth by consensus, then look for evidence to support that official truth, while ignoring or suppressing any contrary evidence, and if evidence cannot be found to support official truth, to just make the evidence up.
This last bit "make the evidence up" is done with "scientific" models - often retrospective data curve fitting - and this is the problem they (govt paid "Scientist"s) have at the moment, their nice hockey stick curves (from the 1980s?) were modelled perfectly for the data, to fit the desired "scientific" outcome, and now the new data doesn't fit the desired hockey stick outcome, so ridiculous "scientific" explanations are trotted out, from "a global pause in global warming" to "important data points not previously included in the model" and other hogwash pseudo-"science" designed to regenerate the hockey stick.
It's political bullshit, not science. They know it. We know. Anyone self respecting adherent to the actual scientific method knows it. But a lot of propaganda to the contrary of the scientific methods is identifying religious nuts to the discerning, which from one view is a public service - just not worth anywhere near the "public" theft-money spent on such "science" propaganda.