On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 06:17:38PM -0500, John Newman wrote:
On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 05:29:50PM +0000, jim bell wrote:
On Saturday, November 16, 2019, 01:50:43 AM PST, John Newman <jnn@synfin.org> wrote:
On Nov 16, 2019, at 2:51 AM, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote: On Saturday, November 16, 2019, 12:22:31 AM PST, John Newman <jnn@synfin.org> wrote:
On Nov 16, 2019, at 1:37 AM, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
Most people are not anarchists.
Mostly because they have grown up their entire lives being unaware of the possibility that a society can be run without a centralized, heirarchical government. And they were also nearly unaware that some non-governmental entity could issue "currency" that people could actually use to buy real things. Things have changed, huh?
Crypto-currency is an important precursor to the technical problems of AP, but AP isn't just a technical problem. The fact that people are investing in bitcoin to try to make a big score has fuck all to do with the ideas behind AP, which involves financing murder for the greater good (oh, and to deter car theft :).
None of your arguments explain why you think AP won't work. Just explains why YOU don't want to see it work. Can't you see why that is irrelevant for most people?
I can see that you're making an irrelevant and poorly constructed argument :) For one thing, I layed out quite clearly what I think the weaknesses of AP are, you can re-read my previous email if you like. It's pretty simple stuff - I lack faith in the "human spirit" to prevail over the global orwellian nightmare into which we are devolving, and disagree with you that the ruling class will accept the assassinations of themselves or their henchmen without fighting back. It has nothing to do with my own desires about AP working or not working. Of course I agree that tyrannicide is a noble and moral goal. Although... killing people for petty theft is not, and positioning AP as a functional replacement for the current criminal justice system is fucking insane.
This provokes a simmering thought to the surface of a lone neurone, regarding just one of many possible escalations: The mobbish public in their hasty and unthinking zeal to "send a message" could at some point target a tyrant/ oligarch's child/ren. That might sound outlandish and "never possible" at first glance, but let's consider possible scenario: - Epstein turns out to be alive. - Pedophile hate rises and fueled with slut media advert sales. - A photo of Clinton and Epstein banging a 12 year old becomes public. - Pedophile hate reaches fever pitch. - Epstein and Clinton are bunkered down with their own private merc army - cannot be personally "AP"ed. - Devastated souls "tortured at a young age" unite to "end the Clinton" genetic line, once and for all. - All of the above happens in a very short time period, say 48 hours, with global P2P coverage and hysteria, with no relevant time for anyone to step back and slow the lynch. - And remember, it's only the 1 in a 1000 or the 1 in 10,000 humans who need to be the unbalanced, tortured, reacting unthinking ones who pitch in an average of $10 each, and we're talking $380,000 to $3.8 million, immediately slushing around the world's most efficient conceivable anonymous assassination market, to "end the Clinton line, once and for all, children, grandchildren, the lot".