On 6/26/20 18:19, таракан wrote:
I am a Mathematician and involved in "industrial" cryptography. However, I am interested in the Cypherpunk movement as described by the Cypherpunk's manifesto.
I am unsure if this mailing list still relates to the original Cypherpunk movement... Obviously it contains many inordinate messages containing vulgar terms.
I'm still scratching my head wondering what flagrant racism, antisemitism, etc have to do with the cypherpunk movement and/or securing technology through encryption. Just kidding... they don't, but apparently since a certain other list is moderated (or if you'd believe some people, "censored"), all that stuff just gets posted here. I've even seen this list cc'd or even threads outright redirected here when it wouldn't pass muster on the other list. Yes, that list is a "technical" list, and I'm not saying this list should become a carbon copy of it, but this is what I'm talking about regarding topic drift.
I also do believe that a public mailing list would be the last place on earth Cypherpunks would choose to meet and discuss but who knows?
I support the original mission of the cypherpunks movement. As stated in the Wikipedia article:
A cypherpunk is any activist[1] advocating widespread use of strong cryptography and privacy-enhancing technologies as a route to social and political change.
There are times and places where one must protect themselves from security risks wearing blue and carrying badges and guns as much as the ones wearing black and balaclavas, or whatever disguise garb criminals wear these days. In a perfect world the cops could be trusted to obey the same laws they are supposed to be enforcing and living up to the standard of "<locale>'s finest" as they are often called. We, unfortunately, do not live in anything close to a perfect world. The way it's looking though, regularly slinging antisemitic, racist, and other slurs, and sticking up for the right to spew outright bullshit where it's not wanted, appear to be someone's idea of de facto qualifications to be a "true cypherpunk". I refuse to do either; I see the ideal form of the cypherpunk movement as egalitarian, where those of all ethnicities and backgrounds are treated equally and given the same chance to participate in beneficial social and political change. Yes, this specifically includes Jews and people of color, as well as LGBTQ+ populations and other marginalized groups. Honestly, if you're going to shut out some people, or use exclusionary language such as well-recognized slurs that are avoided by people who use the word "fuck" like they would use salt and pepper on bland food, then you're no better than the authorities you pretend to hate. United we stand, divided we fall. -- Shawn K. Quinn <skquinn@rushpost.com> http://www.rantroulette.com http://www.skqrecordquest.com