On Thu, May 12, 2022, 1:04 AM Stephen D. Williams <sdw@lig.net> wrote:

Women are free citizens or they are slaves.  Roe said they were citizens.  Now they will be slaves again.

A clump of cells is not a person, let alone a citizen.  Even a mostly formed baby is not a person or citizen.  There is no memory, no cognition.  That it will become a baby is not much different than observing that sperm & eggs can become a human.  Now, we could create a human out of a stem cell, from the skin perhaps.  Are those cells humans?  Citizens with rights?  Doesn't make any sense.

sdw


It used to be that feeding trolls could give you spam.

Nowadays feeding trolls can give you life destroying political manipulation.

Be careful !

But thanks for adding a more rational viewpoint.


On 5/11/22 9:49 PM, grarpamp wrote:
When The Government Plays God: The Slippery Slope From Abortions To Executions

https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/when_the_government_plays_god_the_slippery_slope_from_abortions_to_executions
https://doi.org/10.1108/01443339910788712
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html

    “Abortion on demand is the ultimate State tyranny; the State
simply declares that certain classes of human beings are not persons,
and therefore not entitled to the protection of the law. The State
protects the ‘right’ of some people to kill others, just as the courts
protected the ‘property rights’ of slave masters in their slaves.”

    - Ron Paul

The government wants to play god.

It wants the power to decide who lives or dies and whose rights are
worthy of protection.

Delve beneath the rhetoric and spin that have turned abortion into a
politicized, polarized and propagandized frontline in the culture
wars, and you will find a greater menace at work.

Abortion may be front and center in the power struggle between the
Left and the Right over who has the right to decide—the government or
the individual—when it comes to bodily autonomy, the right to privacy,
sexual freedom, the rights of the unborn, and property interests in
one’s body, but there’s so much more going on here.

The Left would suggest that unborn babies do not have constitutional
rights and the only right that matters is a woman’s right to privacy
in choosing whether or not to abort a pregnancy. The Right, while
fixated on saving the lives of unborn babies, seems less concerned
about what happens to those lives from birth to death.

What few seem willing to address is that in the 30 years since the
U.S. Supreme Court issued its landmark ruling in Roe v. Wade, the
government has come to believe that it not only has the power to
determine who is deserving of constitutional rights in the eyes of the
law but it also has the authority to deny those rights to an American
citizen.

This is how the abortion debate—a politicized tug-of-war over when an
unborn child is considered a human being with rights—plays into the
police state’s hands by laying the groundwork for discussions about
who else may or may not be deserving of rights.

Even if (as a leaked draft opinion in the case of Dobbs v. Jackson
Women’s Health Organization suggests) the Supreme Court overturns its
earlier rulings recognizing abortion as a constitutional right under
the Fourteenth Amendment, that will not resolve the larger problem
that plagues us today: namely, that all along the spectrum of
life—from the unborn child to the aged—the government continues to
play fast and loose with the lives of the citizenry.

Take a good, hard look at the many ways in which Americans are being
denied their rights under the Constitution.

    American families who have their dogs shot, their homes trashed
and their children terrorized or, worse, killed by errant SWAT team
raids in the middle of the night are being denied their rights under
the Constitution.

    Disabled individuals who are being strip searched, handcuffed,
arrested and “diagnosed” by police as dangerous or mentally unstable
merely because they stutter and walk unevenly are being denied their
rights under the Constitution.

    School-aged children as young as 4-years-old who are leg shackled,
handcuffed and strip searched for violating school zero tolerance
policies by chewing a Pop Tart into the shape of a gun and playing an
imaginary game of cops and robbers, or engaging in childish behavior
such as crying or jumping are being denied their rights under the
Constitution.

    Unarmed citizens who are tasered or shot by police for daring to
hesitate, stutter, move a muscle, flee or disagree in any way with a
police order are being denied their rights under the Constitution.

    Likewise, Americans—young and old alike—who are shot by police
because they pointed a garden hose at a police officer, reached for
their registration in their glove box, relied upon a cane to steady
themselves, or were seen playing with air rifles or BB guns are being
denied their rights under the Constitution.

    Female motorists who are unlucky enough to be pulled over for a
questionable traffic infraction only to be subjected by police to
cavity searches by the side of the road are being denied their rights
under the Constitution.

    Male pedestrians and motorists alike who are being subjected to
roadside strip searches and rectal probes by police based largely on
the color of their skin are being denied their rights under the
Constitution.

    American citizens subjected to government surveillance whereby
their phone calls are being listened in on, their mail and text
messages read, their movements tracked and their transactions
monitored are being denied their rights under the Constitution.

    Homeowners who are being fined and arrested for raising chickens
in their backyard, allowing the grass in their front yards to grow too
long, and holding Bible studies in their homes are being denied their
rights under the Constitution.

    Decorated military veterans who are being arrested for criticizing
the government on social media such as Facebook are being denied their
rights under the Constitution.

    Homeless individuals who are being harassed, arrested and run out
of towns by laws that criminalize homelessness are being denied their
rights under the Constitution.

    Individuals whose DNA has been forcibly collected and entered into
federal and state law enforcement databases whether or not they have
been convicted of any crime are being denied their rights under the
Constitution.

    Drivers whose license plates are being scanned, uploaded to a
police database and used to map their movements, whether or not they
are suspected of any crime, are being denied their rights under the
Constitution. The same goes for drivers who are being ticketed for
running afoul of red light cameras without any real opportunity to
defend themselves against such a charge are being denied their rights
under the Constitution.

    Protesters and activists who are being labeled domestic terrorists
and extremists and accused of hate crimes for speaking freely are
being denied their rights under the Constitution. Likewise, American
citizens who being targeted for assassination by drone strikes abroad
without having been charged, tried and convicted of treason are being
denied their rights under the Constitution.

    Hard-working Americans whose bank accounts, homes, cars
electronics and cash are seized by police (operating according to
asset forfeiture schemes that provide profit incentives for highway
robbery) are being denied their rights under the Constitution.

So, what is the common denominator here?

These are all American citizens—endowed by their Creator with certain
unalienable rights, rights that no person or government can take away
from them, among these the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of
happiness—and they are all being oppressed in one way or another by a
government that has grown drunk on power, money and its own authority.

If the government—be it the President, Congress, the courts or any
federal, state or local agent or agency—can decide that any person has
no rights, then that person becomes less than a citizen, less than
human, less than deserving of respect, dignity, civility and bodily
integrity. He or she becomes an “it,” a faceless number that can be
tallied and tracked, a quantifiable mass of cells that can be
discarded without conscience, an expendable cost that can be written
off without a second thought, or an animal that can be bought, sold,
branded, chained, caged, bred, neutered and euthanized at will.

It’s a slippery slope that justifies all manner of violations in the
name of national security, the interest of the state and the so-called
greater good.

Yet those who founded this country believed that what we conceive of
as our rights were given to us by God—we are created equal, according
to the nation’s founding document, the Declaration of Independence—and
that government cannot create, nor can it extinguish our God-given
rights. To do so would be to anoint the government with god-like
powers and elevate it above the citizenry.

Unfortunately, we have been dancing with this particular devil for
quite some time now.

If we continue to wait for the government to restore our freedoms,
respect our rights, rein in its abuses and restrain its agents from
riding roughshod over our lives, our liberty and our happiness, then
we will be waiting forever.

Already, the politicos are beating the war drums to herald the next
phase of the abortion wars.

President Biden wants voters to elect more pro-abortion rights
officials to ensure that “a woman’s right to choose is fundamental.”
The Senate plans to vote to codify the right to an abortion into
federal law. Chief Justice John G. Roberts is opening an investigation
into how the Supreme Court’s draft abortion ruling was leaked. And
polling indicates that the majority of the American people want
abortion to remain legal.

Like clockwork, we find ourselves smack dab in the middle of yet
another political circus that could get scary, ugly and overwhelming
really fast.

Before you get too distracted by this conveniently timed diversion
that has everyone forgetting about spiking gas prices, inflation,
housing shortages, and warring empires, remind yourself that no matter
how the Supreme Court rules in Dobbs, it will not resolve the problem
of a culture that values life based on a sliding scale.  Nor will it
help us navigate the moral, ethical and scientific minefields that
await us as technology and humanity move ever closer to a point of
singularity.

Humanity is being propelled at warp speed into a whole new frontier
when it comes to privacy, bodily autonomy, and what it means to be a
human being. As such, we haven’t even begun to wrap our heads around
how present-day legal debates over bodily autonomy, privacy, vaccine
mandates, the death penalty, and abortion play into future discussions
about singularity, artificial intelligence, cloning, and the privacy
rights of the individual in the face of increasingly invasive,
intrusive and unavoidable government technologies.

Yet here is what I know.

Life is an inalienable right.

By allowing the government to decide who or what is deserving of
rights, it shifts the entire discussion from one in which we are
“endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights” (that of
life, liberty property and the pursuit of happiness) to one in which
only those favored by the government get to enjoy such rights.

If all people are created equal, then all lives should be equally
worthy of protection.

There’s an idea embraced by both the Right and the Left according to
their biases that there is a hierarchy to life, with some lives
worthier of protection than others, but there is no hierarchy of
freedoms.

All freedoms hang together.

As I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the
American People and in its fictional counterpart The Erik Blair
Diaries, we must never stop working to protect life, preserve our
freedoms and maintain some semblance of our humanity.

Freedom cannot be a piece-meal venture.
--

Stephen D. Williams
Founder: VolksDroid, Blue Scholar Foundation