On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:49:32AM -0400, \0xDynamite wrote:
Saying pot is harmless is like saying taking Prozac is harmless. The problem is the NET social consequences. And we can see the consequences: shit doesn't get done and things deteriorate.
'Nuff said?
No, nuff not said ;). Life is not about working 24 hours a day,
Never said otherwise.
and comparing pot to prozac is silly.
It's not silly, both "take the edge off" (mild sedatives) and practitioners believe it's harmless.
Prozac is not a "mild sedative". It's an SSRI (Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor), very similar to a whole bunch of other anti-depressants, but not at all similar, in any way, to pot. The comparison _is_ silly. It's apples and oranges - they're both fruit, but the similarity ends there.
It's great that you're straight-edge, how fashionable,
It's not fashionable, it's healthy. I shouldn't of used the fashionable term. I was answering your claim that I'm a pill-popper or an alcohol drinker, and the answer is: no.
My claim of what? Umm.. check your email man. I take you at your word that you are "straight-edge" (although I'm sure you have no problem taking an aspirin if you have a headache or taking whatever meds a doctor might prescribe if you are ill). The fact that you seem to think I called you a pill-popper just goes to show: it doesn't take weed (or pills) to fuck with your memory :P For that matter, marijuana has finally and fairly quickly begun to be acknowledged as having legit medical benefits in the US, by the "authorities" (who I clearly give a big 'fuck you' to, but anyway). There are some cases where it is the only medication without significant side effects that controls seizures... and other cases where patients find it vastly preferable for treatment of painful conditions as opposed to long term prescribed opiates, which are of course extremely addictive, potentially dangerous, and can have a powerful "high" that some people simply do not like. Too sedating, too "strong", in comparison with marijuana. I presume you wouldn't be so quick to judge people who partake of the plant if they simply have a piece of paper from a higher authority that says they need it? `
but don't pass judgement on other people, about things of which you admittedly have no interest or experience.
So, you don't pass judgement? How about yoru leaders, capitialists, hmm? You're logically inconsistent, I suspect.
I don't pass judgment on someone's personal choices, no. Passing judgment on the actions of someone that has a direct negative consequence for others, like judging a murderer or a thief to be a piece of shit, or a politician who leads a nation into a war to be just a bigger piece of the same type of shit, is completely different than passing judgment on someone's personal choices. Judging someone for smoking pot is like judging someone for being gay - it's absurd. What you suspect about me is wrong.
Making the broad claim that "shit doesn't get done" because of... marijuana... well, it's enough to crack me up, and my thc blood levels are just about zero right now.
All I know is that there are a lot of pot-smoking couch-activists. But, hey, maybe, you're in a holding pattern like me, and simply have to wait it out. In your case, becuase you don't know what the fuck to do, in mine, because everyone else thought THEY did.
Anecdotes are nice, but they're just anecdotes, and in this case from someone who obviously considers themselves superior because they are "straight-edge". There are plenty of people that get all sorts of shit done who smoke marijuana, just as there are plenty of people that get nothing done who are "straight-edge". It is not the defining characteristic you seem to think, and to judge someone based solely on that trait is being judgmental, and having a closed mind. A condition that the occasional indulgence in pot (or other entheogens) could actually help you with, actually ;) John